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 Post subject: Would it be okay if i do this?
PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 1:06 am 
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I was thinking i might make a 3D game set in kolyma....would it be okay if i do this?

I would only add (probably more this is all i can think of i will ask any more if i can add): The count and his place, hagatha, the town, the place up in the sky, maybe the merpeoples realm.

But i'm not adding king grahm so this is not a KQ game....

If not it's okay i can come up with things....oh and if there is anything that might not be a good idea for me to put in from just tell me :D :D :D :D

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Regardless of whether you include King Graham or not, including Kolyma and people from the KQ series is still using King's Quest material. It isn't really our place to give you permission. These items don't belong to us.


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Yeah....okay....did YOU have to get permission from sierra? I wouldn't think so, because your not selling it right?

I think i'm okay i just want to know.

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That's a good question. I don't who would have the rights since Sierra is gone and AGDI here didn't seem to have any copyright issues...

Sorry I just saw this topic now but I just got back from putting The Father's curse upon somone who put a SPAM topic in the Paper Mario 2 board at GameFAQS!


EDIT: Just put the curse on someone at GameFAQS who insulted another user.


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Unless you meant Wookie's story elements, which he's fond of protecting I guess, no you don't need any permission from AGDI for that. An interesting situation about the copyright issues, though. Then again, Sierra may be gone but the label still exists. Vivendi might still care somehow in some way some where out there....in the vast expanse of possibilities.....wow that was quite a poetic perspective I just made...I'm rather proud of that. :)

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Sorry I just saw this topic now but I just got back from putting The Father's curse upon somone who put a SPAM topic in the Paper Mario 2 board at GameFAQS!


EDIT: Just turned someone at GameFAQS into a Goomba for insulting another user.

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Well, I didn't expect to have to use it on more than one person!

I'm not sure if Sierra themselves really cared about their pre-Sierra Online products much anymore.

I do know they still supported: Quest for Glory 5, King's Quest 8 and Contraptions among other things.


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The King's Quest intellectual property is owned by Vivendi Universal Games who bought Sierra a few years back. They're the only people legally authorised to grant you permission to use that intellectual property. (we're not)

Assuming they don't care is a rather rash decision, btw. Any company cares about protecting their copyrights and trademarks.

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Just cause they don't currently market these particular brands (Kings Quest, Quest for Glory, Space Quest etc) doesn't mean that they don't know what they own. I'm sure VU have a team of legal council just for their game catalogue.

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I wouldn't think anybody would care since it's only a fan game that going to be made on MY website and i'm not going to sell it i just want to make a 3D kolyma fan game that has nothing to do with kings quest at all....all i am asking is if i can set it in kolyma....and a few other things IN kolyma that are kinda essencal to setting it in kolyma....

Thats all i'm asking....

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If it has nothing to do with King's Quest, then I suggest dropping the Kolyma idea and just creating a 3D land. The land of Kolyma IS part of the KQ-series, after all.

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Yeah....i just thought that kolyma didn't get enugh attention....i liked that one a lot....


But it's no biggie i think i'll just make me own world....

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There is no difference between a fan game and some fan art, they wont come after you for fan work. ;)


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So than i can do it?

If i can that would be great....


I really liked kolyma and i thought it needed more adventures there....


Besides, think of kolyma in 3D grim fandango style?

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Umm, I suggest dismissing Rog's opinion for once and take the "better safe than sorry"-approach.

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Rog wrote:
There is no difference between a fan game and some fan art, they wont come after you for fan work. ;)


People like Jane Jensen openly oppose to fansequels. It's like rowing in somebody else's water.


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Ah it's no biggie....

I'm going to make a world form e own NP :D :D :D :D

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ERPY> Tell that to AGDI. ;)


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I will.

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can anybody do good 3D modeling? If so i think i have a ags programmer so i just need some graphics....

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Its not that simple you know. Just make a thread in the Game making forum and explain yourself properly with the plot and stuff. ;)


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Yeah but it said i can't....can i?












Don't look at this:
[spoiler]I TOLD YOU NOT TO LOOK AT THIS!!!![/spoiler]

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Uhanimar wrote:
Don't look at this:
[spoiler]I TOLD YOU NOT TO LOOK AT THIS!!!![/spoiler]


Lame. :rolleyes


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Uhanimar, he's the simple facts. If you set your game in Kolyma then the people who own the intellectual copyrights to the Kings Quest series (Sierra / VU) could sue you. Using someone else's ideas for something is a violation of copyright law.

That said, the question remains, will they sue you? Probably not, particually if you're not making any money off the product. They could issue you with a polite "cease and desist" letter, which is more likly.

Honestly, if you only want to set the game in an imaginary land, then make up your own world. Thats my suggestion. It's also more rewarding in the end.

And Rog, drawing a picture of Mickey Mouse and uploading it on the internet is a breach of Disney's copyrights. They could sue, they could issue you with a C&D. It doesn't mean they will, but they are perfectly within their rights to do so. So your argument isn't valid.

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Erpy wrote:
I will.

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So why dont you have a problem with AGDI and you do with other projects?


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I've never got the idea from Erpy's posts that he had anything against other projects. He was simply answering Uhanimar's question. And his answer was that:

1) VU has all the right to sue/close down any fan game or art or anything related to their products. Whether they'll do it, nobody knows.

2) If Uhanimar's gonna create an original game he should keep it completely original. That's the logical thing to do.



Fan projects had a good run, but how long this 'luck' will continue...........


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