AGD1 at E3

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Spikey · #1 Post by **Spikey** » Thu Aug 05, 2004 9:39 am

I'm sure I'm not the only one who thinks it's sad what the big companies said to AGD(or C)1. Can somebody please explain to me AGAIN how King's Quest died exactly?? I remember KQ5 & 6 selling well, and I just recovered an old Dutch magazine where KQ7 dominates the charts. KQ8 didn't sell well, but it doesn't take a gamingcompany to see that that game was no longer point & click adventure.

Fribbi · #2 Post by **Fribbi** » Thu Aug 05, 2004 9:19 pm

Well this remind me on a old song "Video killed the radio star"

In other words:"3D games killed the 2D stars"

Blackthorne519 · #3 Post by **Blackthorne519** » Fri Aug 06, 2004 1:33 am

$$ killed the 2D games.

Klytos · #4 Post by **Klytos** » Sat Aug 07, 2004 12:21 am

I read the article AGD1 wrote about her adventures at E3 this year. I have a question.

After the conference ended, I stood outside with my friend, and we handed out Relight's flyers advertising AGD Interactive to people leaving the event. Many people seemed enthusiastic upon reading them, and two people even fought over my last flyer.

Do you have an "understanding" with Sierra (VU or whatever) about not shutting AGDI down?

I think you must, otherwise handing out flyers advertising "illegal" games at E3 wouldn't be the brightest move I've ever seen.

Do you know that E3 is funded and run every year by the ESA? The same people who shut down sites for Warez, Roms,. Emulators and anything else which breaks the copyrights of their clients (VU and Lucas being two big ones)?

Jafar · #5 Post by **Jafar** » Sat Aug 07, 2004 5:28 am

They arn't illegal. Just sort of legal...

#6 Post by **Erpy** » Sat Aug 07, 2004 8:22 am

I don't think we'd be allowed to put up an AGDI stand there. My guess would be that AGD1 remained a bit unofficial about this and didn't present her flyers to Sierra's reps, but simply to visitors.

Klytos · #7 Post by **Klytos** » Sat Aug 07, 2004 9:35 am

Well no offense Erpy, but that still sounds a bit ... stupid ... to me. (I'm sorry I can't think of a better word than stupid.)

If AGDI doesn't have an agreement with Sierra about these remakes, then advertising them at E3 doesn't seem like a great idea.

They arn't illegal. Just sort of legal...

Sorry Jafar, but if Sierra hasn't approved them, then it's illegal. It's the same as remaking an old Bugs Bunny cartoon without Warner Brothers persmission, or Steamboat Willie without Disney's permission. To quote from the ESA website.

Isn't it OK to copy games that are no longer distributed in the stores or commercially exploited?

No, the current availability of a game in stores is irrelevant to its copyright status. Unlike trademarks, copyrights are not considered abandoned if they are no longer enforced. Copyrights do not enter the public domain just because they are no longer commercially exploited or widely available. Therefore, the copyrights of games are valid even if the games are not found on store shelves, and copying or distributing those games is a copyright infringement.

LucasFan · #8 Post by **LucasFan** » Sun Aug 08, 2004 11:35 am

Erpy wrote:My guess would be that AGD1 remained a bit unofficial about this and didn't present her flyers to Sierra's reps, but simply to visitors.

Klitos wrote:Well no offense Erpy, but that still sounds a bit ... stupid ... to me.

No, it sounds like... hmm... the disclaimer of a warez-site!

But I must say I love their promotion project. I think it's pretty cool and very clever. I just faxed 2 copies of the flyer to Sierra and ESA. I hope it helps!

Klytos · #9 Post by **Klytos** » Mon Aug 09, 2004 2:58 am

Rambaldi0503 · #10 Post by **Rambaldi0503** » Tue Aug 10, 2004 5:54 pm

I sent a whole stack of them. Along with some illegal drugs. I hope that's ok!

I'm was going to joke and say something like a "white powdery substance," but who knows if HomeSec guys read these boards!

LucasFan · #11 Post by **LucasFan** » Tue Aug 10, 2004 6:33 pm

Rambaldi0503 wrote:I sent a whole stack of them. Along with some illegal drugs. I hope that's ok!

Laughing my ass off.

Gronagor · #12 Post by **Gronagor** » Wed Aug 11, 2004 6:39 am

She did say she handed them out to people LEAVING E3. So, there was no chance Sierra's people would have seen the flyers.

And unless she took along a few boxes I doubt that more than 250 people received the flyers.

Klytos · #13 Post by **Klytos** » Wed Aug 11, 2004 7:59 am

Hey, I'm just jealous that I didn't get to go and give New Sierra people a hard time.

Blackthorne519 · #14 Post by **Blackthorne519** » Wed Aug 11, 2004 3:56 pm

Gronagor wrote:She did say she handed them out to people LEAVING E3. So, there was no chance Sierra's people would have seen the flyers.

And unless she took along a few boxes I doubt that more than 250 people received the flyers.

I've said this before; good intentions, bad idea. With the 'iffy' nature of what is done here, and by others, if the wrong person saw that.......
Believe me, if any company thought you might be stealing two dimes from them, they'd spend $100,000 dollars on Lawyers just to make an assinine point.

Heart in the right place; just a bad idear.

Bt

Gronagor · #15 Post by **Gronagor** » Thu Aug 12, 2004 7:19 am

Heh. Strange to see an IA member being a 'scaredy cat'. Why weren't you guys there with your flyers??

Here's a mouse for you:

Zeus · #16 Post by **Zeus** » Thu Aug 12, 2004 7:32 am

No. On the contrary, it was a very good idea going to E3 and distributing flyers.

If i were in their position, i would buy tomatoes, enter the E3, would throw tomatoes to new sierra people booing their choices regarding the gaming section, and would start distributing inside E3 Cds with KQ1VGA and KQ2VGA to the visitors starting crying that it is better to play FREE adventures of old school than paying to buy the new crap that Sierra Vivendi sells!

Grundy · #17 Post by **Grundy** » Thu Aug 12, 2004 10:49 am

I want to hear about the ride along with the cops!?

Zeus · #18 Post by **Zeus** » Thu Aug 12, 2004 12:58 pm

Grundy wrote:I want to hear about the ride along with the cops!?

(answers from the pc of prison) :

Didn't i show you those bruises ? Now i do not need a tatoo!

Rambaldi0503 · #19 Post by **Rambaldi0503** » Thu Aug 12, 2004 3:08 pm

Gronagor wrote:Heh. Strange to see an IA member being a 'scaredy cat'. Why weren't you guys there with your flyers??

They don't let drunks into the convention hall.

Fribbi · #20 Post by **Fribbi** » Thu Aug 12, 2004 3:45 pm

Excuse me but what is this "E3" you are talking about here?

Alliance · #21 Post by **Alliance** » Thu Aug 12, 2004 3:48 pm

You've NEVER heard of the E3? What kind of Sicko are you?
Anyway, the E3 is a huge meeting where companies like Sony, programmers, Nokia, and lots of games meet every year. It's awesome. I hope to go there one day.

#22 Post by **Erpy** » Thu Aug 12, 2004 3:52 pm

It stands for Electronic Entertainment Expo. (3x E, get it?) It's probably the biggest gaming convention in the world and just about every big name in the gaming business tends to attend there. It's also expensive as hell. (I believe entry fee alone is more than 300 bucks)

Alliance · #23 Post by **Alliance** » Thu Aug 12, 2004 4:00 pm

But it's so cool. Official Playstation Magazine often talks about it. Sadly, they usually just talk about booth babes. (which isn't bad, but it's supposed to be about games. Oh well.)

Klytos · #24 Post by **Klytos** » Fri Aug 13, 2004 8:22 am

I'd want awesome babes on the boothes too if I was paying $300 to get in.

Fribbi · #25 Post by **Fribbi** » Fri Aug 13, 2004 8:42 am

Well first of all I have never heard of it that's way I asked. But thanks for the answer guys.