Question for Wolfgang Abenteuer (or any German speakers)

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Question for Wolfgang Abenteuer (or any German speakers)

#1 Post by Walden » Sat Jan 17, 2004 10:39 pm

In the German translation of King's Quest I, they seem to use an unusual form of "you." The game uses what seems to be the plural form "ihr/euch" but capitalized. Why is that? <p></p><i></i>

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Re: Question for Wolfgang Abenteuer (or any German speakers)

#2 Post by Pidgeot » Sat Jan 17, 2004 11:41 pm

Could you give an example? It's often easier to tell such things when they appear in context... <p>Pidgeot<br>-----<br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Every error you find is the last one.</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--></p><i></i>

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Re: Question for Wolfgang Abenteuer (or any German speakers)

#3 Post by Erpy » Sun Jan 18, 2004 1:09 am

Do you mean "Sie"? There's two ways to adress someone in German; you can use "du" or "Sie", just like the French can use "tu" or "Vous". The latter is a more polite, formal form and was deemed more appropriate for a person who is referred to as SIR Graham.<br><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://httpd.chello.nl/c.vanempel/Nashm ... <!--EZCODE IMAGE END--> <p></p><i></i>

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No, no nicht das

#4 Post by Walden » Sun Jan 18, 2004 5:24 am

Er...okay. I guess I should have been more specific.<br><br>The German version uses neither "du" nor "Sie" but "Ihr." "Ihr" is commonly used for refer to several people. English has no different word to say you in the plural (though some dialect words like "ya'll" and "youse guys" in the United States and possibly other places come close.) The game uses "Ihr" capitalized as well. I have seen this before but very rarely; it appears to be some kind of "royal you."<br><br>Does anyone know what this is? <p></p><i></i>

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Re: No, no nicht das

#5 Post by Erpy » Sun Jan 18, 2004 1:23 pm

I believe it's the same basic principle as I mentioned in my previous post. A more formal way of adressing. German grammar always troubled me a bit at school, so I can't tell for certain.<br><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://httpd.chello.nl/c.vanempel/Nashs ... <!--EZCODE IMAGE END--> <p></p><i></i>

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Re: No, no nicht das

#6 Post by DasJan » Mon Jan 19, 2004 5:37 am

Yes, I know what this is. <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/im ... /smile.gif ALT=":)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br>It is neither the informal "du" nor the formal "Sie" but as you guessed a form of "royal you". It sounds like plural but addresses only one person, usually one who is paid a lot of respect to (like a Sir). It is not used in everyday language but is appropriate for a fairy tale like KQ. Not something you'd learn at school about German <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START ;) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/im ... s/wink.gif ALT=";)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br>I put a lot of thoughts into this issue when translating KQVGA and when playing the outcome I think it was the best decision to use this outdated form, because it fits into the setting pretty well.<br><br>Das Jan <p>Das Jan<br><br>---<br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.dasjan.de">www.dasjan.de</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> - <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.adventure-treff.de">www.adventure-treff.de</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--></p><i></i>

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Thanks

#7 Post by Walden » Mon Jan 19, 2004 11:05 am

Hey, thanks.<br><br>I'm having a lot of fun improving my German by playing King's Quest (Die Suche des Koenigs?).<br><br>Danke for alle Ihre Muehe. (Thank you for all your efforts.)<br><br>Walden <p></p><i></i>

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