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Vildern · #1 Post by **Vildern** » Fri Apr 04, 2003 10:59 am

Some voices (and strange accents), IMHO, didn't fit their parts at all. Yet I thought some of the voices were excellent. And those I found professional were: baby pumpkin, The librarian, King Neptune, Little Possum, big Anastasia, the bad merchant in the town, the Ghosts in the graveyard, the priest, THE DWARF WAS AWESOME, Little Graham, Hagatha, Graham (I can't remember more voices that I like, but there were more for sure.) SOME VOICES, HOWEVER, were not professional, and, in my opinion, ruined some parts of the game. Like one part I had liked before and now it is destroyed was the story the grandma was telling Grahahm. What's with the strange accent? It didn't fit the story at all. And I found the strange accent of The Count on the Island and the accent of his dead wife to be annoying. <img src="http://navynuke.netfirms.com/ezboard/vildern.jpg" style="border:0;"/>Edited by: <A HREF=http://pub57.ezboard.com/broyalquestfor ... Vildern</A> at: 4/4/03 5:03:55 am

#2 Post by **Milan Easton** » Fri Apr 04, 2003 11:39 am

Play it again, Vildern. I'm sure it will grow on you. The accent of the vampires and old lady is supposed to mimic that of European. Normally, a vampire should have a romanian type accent, as they are from castle braun in Romania...but, we wanted to go with a more german/russian accent so as it wouldn't be so cliched ,and it would add an extra element of trepidation. In fact, the actress who did the voice of the countess and grandma IS german--can't get anymore authentic than that!! I had originally imagined different accents in my own mind...but after playing the game a couple of times, I realized that the voice acting was far better than anything I could have imagined in my mind. You just have to get rid of your preditermined notion of how you THINK they should sound...and accept how they really DO sound. Once you see it without judging them against your interpretation, then you'll see them as the original work that they really are...realize that they are pretty damn impressive, and they'll grow on you until you can't imagine any OTHER voice as the vampires. This is true for any game that has voices which are released after the original version was released. For example, Gabriel Knight 1 and Quest for Glory 4. Sooo, I highly recommend you play it through again. And if you don't like it again...then play it once more until you do! Best of luck! Anonymous Game Developer #1

Anonymous Voice Actor 1 · #3 Post by **Anonymous Voice Actor 1** » Fri Apr 04, 2003 12:08 pm

I did the voices of the Dwarf and the Baby Pumpkin. I'm glad you enjoyed them. I also did the Mamma pumpkin, which you didn't list, but hey, 2 out of 3 ain't bad! =D

#4 Post by **Erpy** » Fri Apr 04, 2003 1:54 pm

We thought the accent wouldn't be out of place for a couple of vampires. (like in QFG4) FYI, the Count was based on King Ludwig II of Bavaria. (I'm not certain if AGD1 played Gabriel Knight 2, but she learned about him during her stay in Germany) Personal taste always plays a big role when voiceovers are judged (more than visual things) and voiceovers always have SOME parts the player needs to get used to. If you're still unhappy with those voices after giving yourself some time to get used to them, you can always set the speech-mode to "text only" in the options menu. <img src="http://members.chello.nl/c.vanempel/Nas ...

Vildern · #5 Post by **Vildern** » Fri Apr 04, 2003 3:12 pm

Milan Easton (also known as AGD1, hihi): <blockquote>Quote:<hr>predetermined notion of how you THINK they should sound...and accept how they really DO sound. Once you see it without judging them against your interpretation, then you'll see them as the original work that they really are<hr></blockquote> Hey, I guess you are right (Erpy and AGD1). In my mind they had spoken differently, and after I heard the real voices, I thought to myself "Hey, that ain't right!” So probably you are right that I have to play it once again, and judge the voices as if I never had imagined them. Touche (or however you write it). Voice Actor: I did like Mother pumpkin; it is just that I didn't remember her when I wrote down my list. I have to say that the voice of the dwarf was fantastic! It was like I always imagined it! I guess we think alike <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/im ... s/wink.gif ALT=";)"> <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/im ... s/wink.gif ALT=";)"> <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/im ... s/wink.gif ALT=";)"> <img src="http://navynuke.netfirms.com/ezboard/vildern.jpg" style="border:0;"/>

MuzlakOofmay · #6 Post by **MuzlakOofmay** » Fri Apr 04, 2003 6:41 pm

I thought the mama pumpkin was a guy for a while. I imagined a mafia-italian accent in my head the first time I played the game. It wasn't till the second time I noticed the baby pumpkin had asked for mama, not papa. <img src="http://www.nancycarterdesign.com/bryce/pimpbot.gif" style="border:0;"/> ---------- <a href="http://www.nancycarterdesign.com/spongefactory/" target="top">Sponge Factory</a>

majitekunaito · #7 Post by **majitekunaito** » Sat Apr 05, 2003 4:01 am

The only voice that grated on me was The Father. It didn't sound deep enough to my liking. Also, and this is only a technical issue, but Graham's voice had an echo-ish distortion that didn't apply to other voices, which hurts the overall quality, to me. Otherwise, though, it's good so far. <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/im ... /smile.gif ALT=":)"> (edit: although since the sound quality in King's Quest V wasn't that good either, I guess it makes for some authenticity. <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/im ... /smile.gif ALT=":)"> ) Edited by: <A HREF=http://pub57.ezboard.com/broyalquestfor ... kunaito</A> at: 4/4/03 10:10:42 pm

anathoth8 · #8 Post by **anathoth8** » Sat Apr 05, 2003 5:04 am

I think the problem is that I think each voice was recorded separately. I'm not sure they were all recorded in the same place, so the background noise is a bit different for each one. <img src="http://image1ex.villagephotos.com/1679471.jpg" style="border:0;"/> "May the way of the hero lead to the Triforce."

#9 Post by **Erpy** » Sat Apr 05, 2003 3:37 pm

That's the main problem when creating a voicepack with contributors from across the net. Every recording has a different amount of background noise, every recording has a different volume level, every recording is done with a different microphone. And all of them need to be adjusted and edited. I could go on and on. Taking all these factors in mind, I think the end result was still pretty impressive. <img src="http://httpd.chello.nl/c.vanempel/Nashm ...

Shaunze · #10 Post by **Shaunze** » Sat Apr 05, 2003 7:32 pm

I loved the counts voice and the counts wife was great aswell. But since this is a criticism thread... It was a pity that the backround voice was different from time to time but that was inavoidable. I never thought very much about that however... It was only obvious in the conversation with the count and his wife. All voices fit very well in my opinion. Those that were a little less to my liking was the pegasus.. What's up with the accent? He sounded a bit like Richard Nixon <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/im ... /laugh.gif ALT=":lol"> Also, Possums voice was weird. I think it sounded like a guy had spoken and had the voice pitched up in the computer making it sound a little unnatural. However, it's only to be expected that not all voices fall in every persons liking. I disliked some that others loved and so on. Just like with the voice casts in the real Sierra games... Oh I must mention the song! That was great. Very much fitting and in great quality. Hehe, when the ending rolled up I thought "composed and performed by, Enya" <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/im ... /happy.gif ALT=":D"> .

MusicallyInspired · #11 Post by **MusicallyInspired** » Sat Apr 05, 2003 9:29 pm

Actually, Possum was AGD1 and the effect was her usual voice mixed with a higher pitched voice at the same time. I think it worked very well. If you listen hard enough you can hear AGD1's real voice behind the child-effect. Quite interesting way to go about doing a child's voice, though. <hr /> "Requires MCGA, CGA, VGA, PGA, or TA-RA-RA-BOOMGA!!" -Gary Owens, SQ4

Vildern · #12 Post by **Vildern** » Sat Apr 05, 2003 11:22 pm

MusicallyInspired: <blockquote>Quote:<hr>If you listen hard enough you can hear AGD1's real voice behind the child-effect<hr></blockquote> Maybe you and 20% of the forum can, but I think that most of the members can't recognize her voice, since they've never heard it before. <img src="http://navynuke.netfirms.com/ezboard/vildern.jpg" style="border:0;"/>

#13 Post by **Anonymous Game Creator 2** » Sun Apr 06, 2003 12:27 am

Actually, there weren't any kind of voice effects placed on AGD1's Possum voice. She really performed that voice entirely herself. As for the pegasus, I tried to make him sound like Sean Connery..but to each his own, I guess! Edited by: <A HREF=http://pub57.ezboard.com/broyalquestfor ... >Anonymous Game Creator 2</A> at: 4/5/03 6:29:51 pm

MuzlakOofmay · #14 Post by **MuzlakOofmay** » Sun Apr 06, 2003 1:57 am

I must ask... Why is Anastasia's voice the only one that echos like that? <img src="http://www.nancycarterdesign.com/bryce/pimpbot.gif" style="border:0;"/> ---------- <a href="http://www.nancycarterdesign.com/spongefactory/" target="top">Sponge Factory</a>

Broomie · #15 Post by **Broomie** » Sun Apr 06, 2003 2:31 am

I would of thought because the library she was in had an echo effect but that must not be it because Graham didn't have an echo in his voice when he was in the library and Anastasia still had an echo at the wedding. It's proberly just to add a creepy effect because she was an innocent little girl turned adult vampire. <hr /> <img src="http://users.domaindlx.com/broomie/broomie_newer.jpg" style="border:0;"/>

#16 Post by **Anonymous Game Creator 2** » Sun Apr 06, 2003 12:00 pm

Yea, it was just an "eerie effect" that we added to Anastasia's voice. It sounds lonely to me...I liked what AGD#2 did with it, anyhow<img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/im ... /smile.gif ALT=":)"> As for Possum, it is true...no filter was added to it. It's a voice my cousin and I developed for a character when we were kids and always wanted to put in an animated cartoon. I thought this would be a good opportunity to finally use the voice. Let me just tell you, I had to drink a LOT of hot teas to sooth my throat and woke up barely able to talk after pulling off that one<img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/im ... /smile.gif ALT=":)"> Anonymous Game Developer #1 Tierra Entertainment <a href=http://www.tierragames.com>http://www.tierragames.com</a>

The Avatar · #17 Post by **The Avatar** » Sat Apr 12, 2003 11:45 am

<blockquote>Quote:<hr>As for the pegasus, I tried to make him sound like Sean Connery.. -- AGD#2<hr></blockquote> That's awesome.. when I played the game without the voicepack.. I thought perhaps the pegasus was a girl... but the moment I heard his voice my first thought was 'That's Drako!' quite fitting, i think. <blockquote>Quote:<hr>it was just an "eerie effect" that we added to Anastasia's voice. It sounds lonely to me...As for Possum, it's a voice my cousin and I developed for a character when we were kids... --AGD#1<hr></blockquote> Yeah! When I heard Anastasia, the effect made me think of a little girl trapped in a grownup body.. and she sounded so cold and empty - it really added to the scene. And the moment I heard Possum, her voice really immersed me into the game - I wasn't reading dialog anymore, I was compassionately hoping her grandmother would get better, and angrily wishing to get back at that nasty dwarf!  It's truely a blessing to adventure gamers everywhere that you guys are able to work so diligently in the field you love. Thank you Tierra!

Broomie · #18 Post by **Broomie** » Sat Apr 12, 2003 3:11 pm

Am I the only the one who liked Graham's voice? At first I thought it didn't fit him at all but thoughout the game I though Josh was the best decision for Graham. I liked especially when the Count had Graham pinned up against the wall and Josh had to make a strangled sort of voice and it came out nicely. BTW does Josh ever visit these forums, I'd like for him to see all of Tierra support for him. He is a cool guy, I read his interviews on JA and some others, and it was amazing how he was working on a magazine, or a website, I'm not sure, making walkthoughs and writing reviews for adventure games, and then he becomes a proud member of Sierra. <hr /> <img src="http://users.domaindlx.com/broomie/broomie_newer.jpg" style="border:0;"/>

optic · #19 Post by **optic** » Sat Apr 12, 2003 3:51 pm

I liked Graham's voice...he had the most dialogue I believe? <img src="http://www.southwest.com.au/~jackie/signature.JPG" style="border:0;"/>

MusicallyInspired · #20 Post by **MusicallyInspired** » Sat Apr 12, 2003 9:50 pm

Josh is THE Graham voice! I will not accept any other Graham voice. Josh is Graham. For every game that has Graham in it, I will alwyas picture his voice. <hr /> "Requires MCGA, CGA, VGA, PGA, or TA-RA-RA-BOOMGA!!" -Gary Owens, SQ4

etherlad · #21 Post by **etherlad** » Mon Apr 14, 2003 8:48 pm

Overall, I liked the voices, I just have a few nitpicky comments about a few of them. (: I have a bit of an ear for accents, so some stuff jumped out at me. Josh's voice was a little lower quality than most of the others, but I don't think that could really be helped. Cedric sounded really muffled. The Count... well, the best way I can articulate my problem would be to say that it seems like the actor placed more emphasis on the actual accent than on what he was saying. So it sounded a touch forced. It's tough to explain without being in person; as I'd be able to imitate the voice myself that way. <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/im ... s/wink.gif ALT=";)"> Mama Pumpkin was, in general, amazing. Just the occasional word here or there that didn't fit the accent. Same comment for the haystack. Aside from that occasional word, it sounded like it was a voice straight out of a professional cartoon. Possum was great - having Anastasia echo did throw me off, though, as Possum didn't, nor did the Count and Countess. Connor's voice was totally not what I expected, but that's just personal preference. That's all that comes to mind right now. Great work to everyone involved. _______________ Ian Watson <a href="http://www.wolf-spoor.org" target="top">WolfSpoor</a>

Vildern · #22 Post by **Vildern** » Tue Apr 15, 2003 9:15 pm

<blockquote>Quote:<hr>Cedric sounded really muffled.<hr></blockquote> I think he was cute and clear <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/im ... s/wink.gif ALT=";)"> Overall, most of the voices were superb. Fit their parts. Maybe Tierra could help Kippensoep to make a voice - pack for SQ2VGA....? Erpy could be 'Valvalo' (or what ever his name his....) <img src="http://navynuke.netfirms.com/ezboard/vildern.jpg" style="border:0;"/> Edited by: <A HREF=http://pub57.ezboard.com/broyalquestfor ... Vildern</A> at: 4/15/03 4:19:53 pm

Hellohello · #23 Post by **Hellohello** » Tue Apr 18, 2006 6:06 pm

I liked every voice in the game, really I'm so thankful for this remake. I didn't play the original game but I am veryyyy happy that i had opportunity to play this remake, it's my favourite game. I must say that especially I liked the voices of Caldaur and his wife too and i can't forget mentioning voice of the merchant

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By the way, are you going to remake KQ 3 ? I hope so

Broomie · #24 Post by **Broomie** » Tue Apr 18, 2006 8:40 pm

You actually managed to revive a thread around the exact date three years ago. You made baby Jesus cry.

Wow, I failed at English looking back at my old posts.

Anyway, King's Quest III is being remade by these dumb talentless guys. And it's almost done too, infact it's gradually going to the very last stage of beta testing.

WebInFront · #25 Post by **WebInFront** » Tue Jul 11, 2006 7:08 pm

Broomie wrote:You actually managed to revive a thread around the exact date three years ago. You made baby Jesus cry.

Wow, I failed at English looking back at my old posts.

Anyway, King's Quest III is being remade by these dumb talentless guys. And it's almost done too, infact it's gradually going to the very last stage of beta testing.

Maybe my sarcasm meter is turned too low-- but are you serious? Dumb and talentless? I thought they were doing a pretty nice job...

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