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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2003 10:05 am 
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hahaha thanks for the laugh, Storm! <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :lol --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/laugh.gif ALT=":lol"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i></i>


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2003 10:32 am 
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I noticed you stopped posting, but people come and go all the time. Especially here. I don't think you can blame me for not keeping track of every member's presence.<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>When I saw the message reg. the voicepack on the KQ9 forums, there were already posts there with people testifying on actually using it, so the whole prank thing missed me completely.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>It's unfortunate that you weren't there at that time, but we couldn't afford to delay the whole thing until, say, april the 5th. The effect would be gone.<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Maybe I would have found it funny and a nice surprise if I were here to enjoy it, but as it is you just got me pissed off for almost missing out on the voicepack.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>We got you pissed off for almost missing out on the voicepack despite the fact that you would have learned about it the first time you'd pay a visit to our site? I wouldn't blame another project myself if they released something and they didn't come over to my place and drag me to their site. It's partially the responsibility of the visitor to remain informed and if you don't visit the site or certain forums, you wouldn't learn about things like these anyhow. Seeing that it spread across forums quite well, I don't think anybody can blame us for not bringing this one into the spotlight.<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>The thing is, you're expected to lie on April Fool's day, not on all the days that came before it (by saying there's no voice pack).<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>I wonder how many people truly consider this as outright lying. I prefer to see it as wanting to keep something a secret. Start asking any official company representative questions he doesn't want to answer and he'll likely start denying things. Most official companies don't even make statements about unreleased products.<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>As PR tricks go, it's still the worst one I ever seen.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Seeing that we got a nice amount of public attention from this and that this one will likely stick in people's minds for a while because of the little twist involved, I can't imagine how this could be seen as bad PR. I don't notice any reasons for thinking that our action was something bad PR-wise.<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Erpy, your excuses for not announcing it have nothing to do with PR - they're more about "how we saved ourselves the headache of answering fan questions". Besides, from what I gathered, you weren't involved in the making of the voicepack, so how would YOU answering questions would keep you from working on it?<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Ah, but the PR-part is the announcement itself and how it was done. Although working on something in secret and then surprising everyone with it, CAN be seen as a way of doing PR. As for myself, no I wasn't involved in the voicepack, but I was involved in testing it. (as were the other mods) The testing was quite thorough and it's easier to take your time and be detailed rather than having to hurry because the fans are anxious to see the release. On top of that, I'm also involved in behind-the-scenes work, so not having the forums flooded with people waiting for the voicepack is still an advantage. I'd say our reasons for working on it in secret were still pretty valid.<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>About the whole thing with Kurt<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Nope, I'm not his lawyer, but accusing someone of being unloyal to his own project for being active on our visitors forums and not so much on the public forums of KQ9 has to be one of the silliest things I've ever heard. If Tierra-members accused me of being a traitor because I also posted on another board a lot, I'd call them unreasonable. I see you edited your post a day later and added an emoticon, but the initial tone was quite...ludicrous.<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Also, I was planning on not visiting "my" forum as well. In that case, I would have had the risk of missing the voicepack altogether hence the annoyed attitude.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>That sounds as if you're convinced that we're gonna remove the voice pack after having it online for about two weeks and that everyone who doesn't download it straight away "misses out" on the whole thing. I don't think it would have mattered if you learned about it after 2 months or even half a year. You'd still be able to download and experience it. Saying something like "I would have missed it altogether" is like: "I already decided never to check on this site again, but if I miss any important announcements, it's still your fault for not informing me personally." Like I said, it's partially the responsibility of the visitor to remain updated. We've done our part by letting it spread.<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Umm...did I miss something?<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Check out the later parts of <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://pub57.ezboard.com/froyalquestforumsfrm18.showMessage?topicID=181.topic">this</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> thread, Rav.<br><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://httpd.chello.nl/c.vanempel/Nashtell.jpg"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://pub57.ezboard.com/broyalquestforums.showUserPublicProfile?gid=erpy@royalquestforums>Erpy</A>  <IMG HEIGHT=10 WIDTH=10 SRC="http://members.chello.nl/c.vanempel/icon.jpg" BORDER=0> at: 4/9/03 8:43:40 am<br></i>


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2003 10:39 am 
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You people have the tendency to write long posts... now I'm going to be late for sure! Oh, Tierra, you owe me so much for all of the times I was late for school.<br> <p><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://navynuke.netfirms.com/ezboard/vildern.jpg" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br><br><br><br></p><i></i>


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2003 12:26 pm 
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Ah...come on Vildern...it's not that hard to create long, descriptive posts...<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START ;) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/wink.gif ALT=";)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://www.southwest.com.au/~jackie/signature.JPG" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--></p><i></i>


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2003 1:40 pm 
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Besides, even with the small amount of people who did find out about the voice pack on the day it was released, there was still a lot of congestion on the downloads page and many people were not able to connect to the link. <br><br>This situation, too, was anticipated and the prank was a good thing to prevent too many extra people trying to download the game within the first few days and making the servers congested even more. <p></p><i></i>


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2003 2:09 pm 
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Hey, I thought it was a good joke. And how could it lying if the truth was told all along? I really didn't mind being one of the many butts of this little prank because I got something cool out of it. I really can understand how that a few people got their noses bent out of shape over this. It's not like it was everyone's God given right to have a voice pack for KQ2+, or a KQ2+ for that matter. Just be thankful! <p><!--EZCODE HR START--><hr /><!--EZCODE HR END--><!--EZCODE CENTER START--><div style="text-align:center"><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://malekdarshin.homestead.com/files/card.jpg" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--></div><!--EZCODE CENTER END--><br><!--EZCODE CENTER START--><div style="text-align:center"><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://pub49.ezboard.com/fgaminggroundzerofrm12"><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://malekdarshin.homestead.com/files/junki.gif" style="border:0;"alt="The Junki Knights of Junkyardia."/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--></a><!--EZCODE LINK END--></div><!--EZCODE CENTER END--></p><i></i>


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2003 3:17 pm 
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Okay, wow, it apparently wasn't a good week to have plays going up because I seem to have been the center of a debate all of a sudden! Am I just that awesome and popular? <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START ;) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/wink.gif ALT=";)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :D --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/happy.gif ALT=":D"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br>As for Erpy being my lawyer, well, I do keep him on retainer for situations such as this. If I'm busy, I have him hired to win all my arguments for me as well as keep me informed on how many of the womens want and/or need me at any given time. So far, he hasn't let me down. Good man, that Erpy. <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :p --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/tongue.gif ALT=":p"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br>As for the KQ9 thing, if people posted more than once a week I might consider it. As it is, the only people besides you who are regulars there are team members, and I talk to them way too much as it is! <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :p --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/tongue.gif ALT=":p"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br>Also, as for your stance on the whole subject, they didn't plan on making a voice pack until about last August. They aren't required to announce anything at all to us. If they feel like business will run smoother if the fans aren't in the know as much as they could be, then it is their prerogative to do so. You don't exactly see us at KQ9 falling all over ourselves to tell you the lastest thing about the project, do you? The occasional newsletter (which, btw, #3 will come out at some point and time) and the sketch of the week is all we do, and that right there is already more than Tierra does. Hell, before KQ2+ came out, our site looked a million times better too, as far as looks go. That's Tierra's charm, though. They keep things simple so they can concentrate on what really matters, and that's what all this is about.<br><br>We're trying to rejuvinate the adventure market with our games and to provide entertainment for all who seek it out, not to keep a starving fan base appeased with snippits of information. Personally, the less they know, the less pressure there is to get it done, the less mistakes are made. End of story. 'Sides, you're hearin' voices, aren't you? Then what's there to complain about? <p>-----------------------<br>Cris Skelton<br>Newsletter and Plot Writer<br>Kings Quest IX: Every Cloak Has a Silver Lining<br><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://www.sighost.us/members/thelongwayhome/batag4b.JPG"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br><br>"I made a promise on the grave of my parents to rid this city of the evil that took their lives. By day, I am Bruce Wayne, millionaire philanthropist. At night, criminals, a cowardly and superstitious lot, call me...The Batman."</p><i></i>


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2003 3:22 pm 
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I don't think that anyone has the right to attack a site that post a prank on April 1st. The three sites I visit the most posted pranks on that day; ‘Gamer' (the Israeli one), ‘Walla' and ‘Tierra'. But, in this special case I can see their point of view. I was a little bit mad myself, but only because that you were able to fool me <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :hat --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/pimp.gif ALT=":hat"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://navynuke.netfirms.com/ezboard/vildern.jpg" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br><br><br><br></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://pub57.ezboard.com/broyalquestforums.showUserPublicProfile?gid=vildern>Vildern</A> at: 4/9/03 10:24:07 am<br></i>


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Well...that sure fooled me, as I am always gullible...<br><br>I also fall prey to many pranks, but I don't mind them...I think...and stop smoking Vildern! <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :hat --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/pimp.gif ALT=":hat"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://www.southwest.com.au/~jackie/signature.JPG" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--></p><i></i>


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I thought it was funny a bit harsh at first but I was relieved when I saw there really was a Speech pack!! I couldnt beleive it<br><br>Any way well done Erpy!<br><br>Angelus <p></p><i></i>


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<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :eek --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/eek.gif ALT=":eek"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br>In real life I don't smoke. It's *hit (sorry for the word).<br>Drinking is also *hit. These two things I'll never try.<br>But I've no problems destroying my teeth with Cola <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :smokin --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/smokin.gif ALT=":smokin"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> at least two glasses everyday. <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :eek --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/eek.gif ALT=":eek"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br> <p><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://navynuke.netfirms.com/ezboard/vildern.jpg" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br><br><br><br></p><i></i>


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That's nothing. My friend Dankun, at his house, that's all they have to drink. I wouldn't be surprised if he put it in his cereal! <p><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://www.nancycarterdesign.com/bryce/pimpbot.gif" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br>----------<br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.nancycarterdesign.com/spongefactory/" target="top">Sponge Factory</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--></p><i></i>


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Hey Storm. It has already been a week, and still people gets emotional about this April Fools Joke. And they all download...<br>That's fantastic PR-work! <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://pub57.ezboard.com/broyalquestforums.showUserPublicProfile?gid=gronagor@royalquestforums>Gronagor</A> at: 4/9/03 9:26:32 pm<br></i>


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NOT emotional... It's just that the whole purpose of PR is getting people to know about your product, not hiding it from them <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START 8) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/glasses.gif ALT="8)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br>Anyway, I also thought it was a joke the first time I saw the announcement. You must admit it was more probable and way easier to just announce the thing than actually take the trouble (and months) of making it <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START ;) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/wink.gif ALT=";)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br>As it is, I'm glad to have the voicepack... but I'll know better once I install & play the thing. I'm a bit pressed in time to do that right now <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/smile.gif ALT=":)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i></i>


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2003 9:53 am 
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True, but we've only been hiding it until it was completed. (again: this was in best interest for both parties and had nothing to do with PR)<br><br>Then we announced it, added a little twist to it so it would remain in people's heads (like: "Do you remember the announcement of the KQ2-voicepack?" "Grrrrr. yes."), and then we had the word spread. Either myself or the original posters made certain to clear up confusion.<br><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://httpd.chello.nl/c.vanempel/Nashmean.jpg"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--> <p></p><i></i>


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Hehe. Storm, what would you have said if Sierra anounced: "Hey! Guess what! We've been fooling you! We're still making adventure quests! And tomorrow we'll release the sequels to all your favourite games and more!"<br><br>Hmmm... now that I think about it. That would possibly the end of the fangames... <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :\ --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/ohwell.gif ALT=":\"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i></i>


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I thought it was rather clever. If I'd stopped in on the first, I might've been fooled too. Possibly. :P<br><br>Can't be bad PR hiding some things... why else would -any- game-making company do something like that? I'd imagine that most people would much rather look in one day and be all surprised at how there's suddenly a voice pack that has been denied to be in the making for ages, than to look in one day and find nothing at all, wouldn't you?<br><br>Of course, I'd imagine people would like it even more to suddenly find QFG2 completed. :P<br><br>Good job, Erpy. You did the hardest part, and you have to put up with irritable grouchy people for it. I salute you! <p></p><i></i>


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But the watchful eye noticed things. A rumor in the Inventory about something special happening in Tierra to watch for soon. The conicdence of it winding up on April first. Comments made by people like Kurt. Led me to believe that we were to think it was a prank to make us think it was all a prank. <p>The Knight<br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://image1ex.villagephotos.com/1799499.jpg" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--></p><i></i>


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