The Gamers Thread: PS3, PC, Wii, 360... pick your poison!!

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Angelus3K · #376 Post by **Angelus3K** » Wed Jul 14, 2004 6:21 pm

Just announced TODAY, PS3 will premiere at E3 in 2005.

Well I read that yesterday on IGN, Sony will announce the PS3 details before April 2005 and they will have a playable version at E3 2005. They also expect to ship Version 1 of the PS3 in late 2005 and Version 2 by early 2006.

I guess it comes down to personal preference with consoles controllers everything.

The PS2 for me is perfect I can control every game I play with it prefectly for example I couldnt imagine swinging around on Spiderman 2 with any other controller, it just wouldnt be the same, but thats my preference.

As long as all the good games are available for each console then everybody is happy.... Apart from those who cant play GTA: San Andreas hahahahah. Ahem.

Adol · #377 Post by **Adol** » Wed Jul 14, 2004 6:34 pm

Did they mention if the PS3 will have the same backwards compatability that the PS2 had? That was one of the strongest selling points for the PS2 to me.
I only got so much room in my entertainment center afterall. I don't really wanna tie too many more power strips into those outlets.
Where are y'all getting your information anyways?

Rambaldi0503 · #378 Post by **Rambaldi0503** » Wed Jul 14, 2004 6:48 pm

Adol wrote:Did they mention if the PS3 will have the same backwards compatability that the PS2 had? That was one of the strongest selling points for the PS2 to me.
I only got so much room in my entertainment center afterall. I don't really wanna tie too many more power strips into those outlets.
Where are y'all getting your information anyways?

I read it on a couple of sites. Dont' worry it is realistic.

Angelus3K · #379 Post by **Angelus3K** » Wed Jul 14, 2004 7:00 pm

Hmm I dont think so, the Cell technology in PS3 is alot more advanced than the PS2, I doubt the PS3 will have backwards compatabilty, if it has then they will have had to do alot of work on the emulation for it.

But like I said we'll find out everything before April 2005.

Rambaldi0503 · #380 Post by **Rambaldi0503** » Wed Jul 14, 2004 7:19 pm

Angelus3K wrote:Hmm I dont think so, the Cell technology in PS3 is alot more advanced than the PS2, I doubt the PS3 will have backwards compatabilty, if it has then they will have had to do alot of work on the emulation for it.

But like I said we'll find out everything before April 2005.

Well, I can't comment on the technology b/c I don't know that much about it, but I'll give them the benefit of the doubt and assume they'll make it backwards compatable. That REALLY helped sales I think.

Angelus3K · #381 Post by **Angelus3K** » Wed Jul 14, 2004 7:26 pm

I did a quick google search and it seems you may be right.

SCE boss confirms PS3 backwards compatibility
Rob Fahey 14:23 02/09/2003

World not exactly in shock, but nice to know all the same

Sony Computer Entertainment boss Ken Kutaragi has confirmed that the PlayStation 3 will feature backwards compatibility with the PS2 and PSone, ensuring continued support for older software formats in the new hardware.

Speaking to Japanese newspaper Asahi Shimbun, Kutaragi-san attributed some of the success of the PS2 to the console's ability to play PSone games as well as PS2 native titles, stating that this was "a matter of security... [PS2] offers a sense of insurance because it is compatible with PSone and DVD-Movies."

This trend - started by Sony with the PS2, as backwards compatibility in home consoles was certainly not the norm before then - is set to continue with the PS3, which will offer emulation for the PS2 and hence for the PSone.

"PSone runs on the PlayStation 2 through emulation rather than actual hardware. PlayStation 3 will offer the same compatibility for PS2 software and the format will continue forever," he explained.

It's expected that Microsoft's successor to the Xbox will also offer backwards compatibility with current hardware - although the recently announced decision to partner with ATI rather than NVIDIA may cause trouble in this respect, according to some graphics experts.

"ATI's hardware runs the same sort of pixel shaders and so on that the NVIDIA chipset does," one graphics programmer working on Xbox games explained to us, "but getting the hardware to exactly mimic the behaviour of an NVIDIA part could be very tricky... It'll be interesting to see if Microsoft can get Xbox 2 to play Xbox games without glitches, especially ones that have been written to tie in closely with the console's specs."

So the PS3 will emulate the PS2 which emulates the PS1 lol

Although the date on that info is September last year so I will wait till the official PS3 details are released but it looks promising!!

Rambaldi0503 · #382 Post by **Rambaldi0503** » Wed Jul 14, 2004 7:52 pm

THANK YOU SONY!

Jafar · #383 Post by **Jafar** » Wed Jul 14, 2004 7:54 pm

CURSE YOU SONY!

....What?

Pidgeot · #384 Post by **Pidgeot** » Wed Jul 14, 2004 9:36 pm

Rambaldi0503 wrote:I was actually a fan of the N64 controller.

Which I agree with - however, GC takes the lead over N64 for one simple reason: N64 controllers tend to wear out too easily, even the official ones. Anyone remember the "rotate-the-control-stick-as-fast-as-possible-until-you-get-blisters" mini-games from Mario Party? Those had one of my joysticks end up with a deadzone of about 50% (meaning that the stick itself was so loose, you could move it about 50% of the way to the edge without the controller being able to react).
Yet to happen with my GC, which I've had for two years now - then again, haven't played any of the rotate games. Well, except for petting Pikachu in Channel, but that's using the C Stick, anyways.

PS2 is out of the competition - it just doesn't seem to fit properly in my hands.

Fun fact: The GameCube is actually able to recognise an N64 controller.

Jafar · #385 Post by **Jafar** » Thu Jul 15, 2004 12:21 am

You mean GC controllers are backwards compatible?

Brainiac · #386 Post by **Brainiac** » Thu Jul 15, 2004 12:59 am

Angelus3K wrote:So the PS3 will emulate the PS2 which emulates the PS1 lol

So I was right; in a few years, I will be able to play on a PS3 emulating a PS2 emulating a PS1 emulating a SNES playing Final Fantasy VI.

Or even better, a PC program emulating a PS3 emulating a PS2 emulating...

...okay, I'll shut up now.

Rambaldi0503 · #387 Post by **Rambaldi0503** » Thu Jul 15, 2004 1:13 am

Jafar wrote:You mean GC controllers are backwards compatible?

All of PSone's hardware work on PS2.

Brainiac · #388 Post by **Brainiac** » Thu Jul 15, 2004 1:18 am

Indeed, some of the PS1's hardware is necessary for playing PS1 games (the memory card). Personally, though, I know of very few people who use the original, non-analog PS1 controllers with their PS2...

OT: Whoo-hoo, got the Most Recent Post back for all seven forums!

Jafar · #389 Post by **Jafar** » Thu Jul 15, 2004 1:49 am

Rambaldi0503 wrote:
Jafar wrote:You mean GC controllers are backwards compatible?
All of PSone's hardware work on PS2.

Does that have any revelance to what I asked?

Rambaldi0503 · #390 Post by **Rambaldi0503** » Thu Jul 15, 2004 2:35 am

Jafar wrote:
Rambaldi0503 wrote:
Jafar wrote:You mean GC controllers are backwards compatible?
All of PSone's hardware work on PS2.
Does that have any revelance to what I asked?

No, but I figured I might as well bring it up. ASS. Hehe.

Pidgeot · #391 Post by **Pidgeot** » Thu Jul 15, 2004 12:56 pm

Jafar wrote:You mean GC controllers are backwards compatible?

No, GC controllers use a different hardware ID, so N64 wouldn't be able to recognise them. Unless that was already planned back then

Theoretically, N64 controllers should be FORWARD compatible, as a GameCube can recognise them. But there'd be missing the X and Y buttons, and the C stick and the L and R buttons are digital rather than analog, so it'd probably only work for some games.

Angelus3K · #392 Post by **Angelus3K** » Thu Jul 15, 2004 4:37 pm

Yup all of the PSOne stuff is compatible with PS2 except the multi-tap for which you need to use a PS2 one.

And Braniac, I get what you mean but PS1 isnt powerful enough to emulate Snes, the Snes emulator is for PS2, but the PS1 has a lovely Nes emulator!!

Personally I cant wait to see the PS3 widen the gap for Sony from Microsoft and Nintendo even farther! Clear blue water!!

Jafar · #393 Post by **Jafar** » Thu Jul 15, 2004 4:40 pm

I forsee murkiness in Sonys waters.

Angelus3K · #394 Post by **Angelus3K** » Thu Jul 15, 2004 4:51 pm

Well that maybe so but the fact is at the minute their is clear blue water between Sony and its competitors and I forsee that becoming an ocean, but as always time will tell.

Lets hope Nintendo can at least keep up with Microsoft and not fall to its knees like Sega.

Actually I cant wait for the Sega ages re-releases on PS2, old games like Golden Axe and Afterburner!! There's also talk of them releasing Streets of Rage/Bare Knuckle for PS2!! That would be so cool!

Jafar · #395 Post by **Jafar** » Thu Jul 15, 2004 5:45 pm

Lets hope Nintendo can at least keep up with Microsoft and not fall to its knees like Sega.

You mean become Third party? That won't happen. I hope they stay strong though.

Angelus3K · #396 Post by **Angelus3K** » Thu Jul 15, 2004 5:54 pm

Well I think it would be better for Nintendo to make games for other consoles than cease to exist altogether.

But I do hope Nintendo hold on and beat Microsoft, Nintendo are an essential part of gaming history and the gaming future, I hope.

Jafar · #397 Post by **Jafar** » Thu Jul 15, 2004 5:57 pm

You know, Nintendo said the day they make games for other consoles is the day they stop making video games? They must beat Micro$oft though.

Broomie · #398 Post by **Broomie** » Thu Jul 15, 2004 7:51 pm

I played Spiderman 2 is Game today, it is brilliant. Much better, it took a while to get used to the controls and I was playing it on the PS2. *sigh*

I will get this for the Gamecube as soon as I get money, I'm getting a small job down a printing company, so I will hopefully get some good money from that.

Angelus3K · #399 Post by **Angelus3K** » Thu Jul 15, 2004 8:02 pm

Cool! Good luck with your job Broomie!!

You could always rent it over the weekend and get some good web swinging practise in

EDIT: Thats another good point about the PS2 you can get free games! Mwhahahahaa

Brainiac · #400 Post by **Brainiac** » Fri Jul 16, 2004 12:35 am

Angelus3K wrote:And Braniac, I get what you mean but PS1 isnt powerful enough to emulate Snes, the Snes emulator is for PS2, but the PS1 has a lovely Nes emulator!!

Really? So how did Square get all the redone SNES games (FF4 - FF6, CT, etc.) to work? And why wouldn't a 32-bit CD system have enough kick to deal with something originally designed for a 16-bit cart system?

The Gamers Thread: PS3, PC, Wii, 360... pick your poison!!

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