Second Best Test Answers (may contain spoilers)
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Second Best Test Answers (may contain spoilers)
I read earlier that each of the three cloud tests has a second-best answer to it, as well as the most correct. I was wondering what they were, especially for the second test. I'm assuming the "Partners in Crime" is the second best for the first test, but none of the others for the second test seem in any way correct. Anyone want to clue me in here? <p>"Lose yourself in the music, the moment<br>You own it, you better never let it go<br>You only get one shot; do not miss your chance to blow<br>This opportunity comes once in a lifetime"</p><i></i>
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Test 1:<br><br>Sacrificial Lamb: 2 test points and 1 puzzle point<br>Partners in crime: 1 test point and 0 puzzle points<br><br>Test 2:<br><br>Severing the lifeline: 2 test points and 1 puzzle point<br>Final act of defience: 1 test point and 0 puzzle points<br>In other cases, you either give The Father your crown or do the right thing for the wrong reasons.<br><br>Test 3:<br><br>Knight Time: 2 test points and 1 puzzle point<br>Not To Knight: 1 test point and 1 puzzle point (MOE-haters can get away with this one and still obtain perfect score, but the Cloud spirit won't praise you, since he doesn't care about whether the player liked MOE or not)<br>Madness: 0 test points and 0 puzzle points (The Cloud Spirit doesn't have a sense of humor)<br><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://httpd.chello.nl/c.vanempel/Nashg ... <!--EZCODE IMAGE END--> <p></p><i></i>
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I really liked the voice acting for the Third Test...it was humourous and professional...heh,heh...<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START ;) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/im ... s/wink.gif ALT=";)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://www.southwest.com.au/~jackie/signature.JPG" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--></p><i></i>
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I don't agree with the 3rd test answer. Not crowning Connor was the right thing to do. He could never devote himself fully to Daventry. At anytime his duties to the MOE might take him away, never to return. Being a King would mean he would have to make the tough decisions. I think Graham was just screwed anyway, so he might as well go insane. His only real option would be to have done what King Edward did. Send his best and most trusted knight on a quest for goodness, and if that knight does well enough, give them the crown. (And hope it's not The Father!) <br><br>Oh, and I actually liked MOE! <p><!--EZCODE HR START--><hr /><!--EZCODE HR END--><!--EZCODE CENTER START--><div style="text-align:center"><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://malekdarshin.homestead.com/files/card.jpg" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--></div><!--EZCODE CENTER END--><br><!--EZCODE CENTER START--><div style="text-align:center"><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://pub49.ezboard.com/fgaminggroundz ... <!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://malekdarshin.homestead.com/files/junki.gif" style="border:0;"alt="The Junki Knights of Junkyardia."/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--></a><!--EZCODE LINK END--></div><!--EZCODE CENTER END--></p><i></i>
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The problem is "<!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>might</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> need to attend to other matters". If Connor wasn't the most qualified person for the job, Graham wouldn't have chosen him. This obviously goes beyond Connor's skill with the blade. The mask has been at its sanctum for centuries. Connor will only be able to double as the mask protector for 20 years or so. After that, he'll be too old to lug that huge armor anyway. If nothing happened to the mask in those "few" years, Daventry would have lost a promising throne-candidate.<br><br>Take a look at Graham. He left for Kolyma because of "obligations". (and later to Serenia) Does that make him unsuitable?<br><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://httpd.chello.nl/c.vanempel/Nashc ... <!--EZCODE IMAGE END--> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://pub57.ezboard.com/broyalquestfor ... ms>Erpy</A> <IMG HEIGHT=10 WIDTH=10 SRC="http://members.chello.nl/c.vanempel/icon.jpg" BORDER=0> at: 4/7/03 6:05:23 pm<br></i>
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Now that you mention it, yes. Kings are supposed to stay out of harm's way, risking leaving his people without a leader is an unexeptable risk. But I'll drop that. All of the adventuring Graham did was in some way for Daventry. If something else came up, let's say some natural disaster. Graham would have never left. But let's say that the same natural disaster happened while Connor was king, but at the same time his duties of protector called his away. He would have to leave. His role as protector is much larger than being king. It's Daventry or existence. <br><br>And we don't really know how if Connor is the best candidate for being king. <p><!--EZCODE HR START--><hr /><!--EZCODE HR END--><!--EZCODE CENTER START--><div style="text-align:center"><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://malekdarshin.homestead.com/files/card.jpg" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--></div><!--EZCODE CENTER END--><br><!--EZCODE CENTER START--><div style="text-align:center"><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://pub49.ezboard.com/fgaminggroundz ... <!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://malekdarshin.homestead.com/files/junki.gif" style="border:0;"alt="The Junki Knights of Junkyardia."/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--></a><!--EZCODE LINK END--></div><!--EZCODE CENTER END--></p><i></i>
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Just appoint an assistant to run things and everything will be fine. As long as it isn't the Father. <p>"Lose yourself in the music, the moment<br>You own it, you better never let it go<br>You only get one shot; do not miss your chance to blow<br>This opportunity comes once in a lifetime"</p><i></i>
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Nah...
For one, after all that, it seems like Connor might be a little better off than you might think. He is the "Champion ETERNAL." Well, they never finished telling the story after all. Besides, Lucreto is gone and it is highly unlikely that there is a better candidate for the crown, since Alex is king in the Green Isles and his sister is gone as well. Besides, the Mask may not be in need of further protection. <p></p><i></i>
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That's strange. I remember when I first played in Version 1.0, I picked abosulte absultion, final defiance, and knight time, and I didn't die. and thats only 3 test points. <p>The Knight<br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://image1ex.villagephotos.com/1799499.jpg" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--></p><i></i>
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I think alot of the answers are basically opinions on that test. I think Partners in Crime is the best answer for the first test myself. I mean it was BOTH of them that was involved. I always thought the Sacrifical Lamb would blame your friend. But even if you try and take all the blame, it wasn't all your fault. <br><br>I too think NOT knighting him is the best answer on the 3rd one. I do agree with the 2nd tests best answer though. <p></p><i></i>
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I disagree..................................................
I don't Knight connor at all after the first time. Because I just think it isn't the best choice for Daventry. He has a higher obligation. And why is there only one throne in the throne room in the 3rd test? Is Valanice dead? <p>The Knight<br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://image1ex.villagephotos.com/2397360.jpg" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--></p><i></i>
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I read somewhere that those who don't like MOE don't reach 120 (in age) <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START 8o --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/im ... s/nerd.gif ALT="8o"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://navynuke.netfirms.com/ezboard/vildern.jpg" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br><br><br><br></p><i></i>
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And I read that those who like MOE don't live longer than 17. <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :b --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/im ... tongue.gif ALT=":b"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :rollin --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/im ... s/roll.gif ALT=":rollin"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :rollin --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/im ... s/roll.gif ALT=":rollin"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START 8o --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/im ... s/nerd.gif ALT="8o"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p>The Knight<br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://www.shadowwebs.co.uk/images/drac ... knight.jpg" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--></p><i></i>
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I love reading the morality arguments about the tests... to each their own, I suppose. But, the cloud spirit goes for entirely selfless acts, which includes taking the entire blame for something that isn't your fault. Sort of a noble-type trait thing.<br>The cloud spirit is into doing the right thing for the right reason. Accepting the second test deal would not be good. Refusing also has its negative consequences (the continuation of Daventry's suffering). It's about facing a diffcicult decision, where neither path is particularly benficial. I felt that Graham had never been put through this - having always sttod on the assumed moral high ground. This was my motivation for writing the second test - showing a side of Graham we hadn't seen before... a man under extreme emotional duress.<br>Finally, the Cloud Spirit advocates putting aside reservations about someone and trusting them enough to take on significant responsibilities in your absence. Again, not an easy decision, given Conner's 'higher connections'.(As for Conner's suitability, I don't recall the KQ series offering up an alternative to Conner as a replacement King after Graham. So there wasn't much of a choice for me, really!) <p></p><i></i>
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Two things Wookie:<br>1) Is Valanice dead at the time of the third test?<br>2) Graham and Valanice could always had another child. You could have wrote that in. Never mind thier age. <p>The Knight<br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://www.shadowwebs.co.uk/images/drac ... knight.jpg" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--></p><i></i>
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1) I think this was done out of safety reasons. Valanice only appeared in MOE as a portrait, so it would be safest not to have her in that flash-forward either.<br><br>2) For some reason, I don't think it would be a very good idea to have Graham and Valanice have another child. It wouldn't just clash with the KQ-series, it would collide head-on and cause a big bang.<br><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://httpd.chello.nl/c.vanempel/Nashs ... <!--EZCODE IMAGE END--> <p></p><i></i>
Tests and a loose ends
<br>The tests were the things that sent the KQ2+ from being a great remake to a jaw-dropping piece of fan work. In just that sequence, we learned more about Graham than we got to see in three Roberta Williams outings. It did what fanfic is SUPPOSED to do - embellish, explain, fill in the gaps, and explore what canon didn't have room to detail (And I've been a fanfic writer and beta for 15+ years).<br><br>Connor...never played MOE and have heard very little positive about it. most of the positive reviews tend to read, "OK game, but don't mistake it for a King's Quest."<br><br>There's another odd question that begs to be answered, however. What happened to Rosella? She wasn't in MOE, from what I gather, but just what happened to her? Alexander may have his hands full with the Green Isles, but his twin would be just as capable of wearing a crown. In fact, while he was captive, she was likely being groomed to take the "reigns," making that dragon sacrifice even more awful. <br><br>Going to Etheria with Edgar is a possibility, but from what I understand, fairies have long lives. And if it came to it, Edgar would hesitate all of five seconds if Rosella asked him to come with her. <br><br>So, what's the semi-official explanation? <p></p><i></i>
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I'm not certain myself. It's never made very clear how much time passed between KQ7 and MOE. We assumed a fair amount of years passed. Graham being aged would give the Connor-scene more impact and from how Daventry changed in MOE, we derived that it didn't happen directly after KQ7, although only Roberta would know for certain.<br><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://httpd.chello.nl/c.vanempel/Nashu ... <!--EZCODE IMAGE END--> <p></p><i></i>