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Kings Quest 1 VGA

Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2003 7:35 am
by re
I can't say "fill" to the woodcutter. So I end up not recieving the Fiddle, then later on I have nothing to give to the gaurds. <p></p><i></i>

To fill...

Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2003 7:40 am
by adeyke
First you have to actually know what word is written in the bowl. Then you have to use it on yourself to activate it. If you give the woodcutter a full bowl, he'll be happy. <p></p><i></i>

Re: Kings Quest 1 VGA

Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2003 7:41 am
by Wolfgang Abenteuer
In the original, when you said "fill", you weren't actually saying it to the woodcutter, you were saying it to the bowl. If you look at the bowl in the original, Graham notices that the bottom has the word "Fill" written on it. That's the magic word that fills it up with soup, not what you tell the woodcutter. In the remake, you can get the bowl to "fill" by clicking the empty bowl on Graham at any time.<br><br>~Wolfgang <p></p><i></i>

Re: Kings Quest 1 VGA

Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2003 9:39 pm
by anathoth8
Do you think that the woodcutter knows that the bowl is magic? He seems to be just a bit too excited over a single bowl of stew that's not even enough to feed both him and his wife. Yet, he gives away his most prized possession in exchange for it. Hopefully, he eventually figures it out and never goes hungry again. <p><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://www.shadowwebs.co.uk/images/gansig.jpg" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br>"Let me show you what hope you have."</p><i></i>

Re: Kings Quest 1 VGA

Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2003 11:27 pm
by Erpy
Let's hope he can read. It's not really safe to assume the average country bumpkin is capable of doing so. <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :b --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/im ... tongue.gif ALT=":b"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://httpd.chello.nl/c.vanempel/Nashh ... <!--EZCODE IMAGE END--> <p></p><i></i>

Filling the bowl

Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2003 11:34 pm
by fluxmaster
If I'm not mistaken, in the original KQ1 I filled the bowl with water in one of the lakes, and the water magically turned into soup. I took the word "FILL" to be an instruction to the player, rather than a magic word. I haven't tried that in the VGA game, but it may work there as well.<br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.replinemeadowsoftware.com" target="top">Repline Meadow Software</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br>The Fluxmaster <p></p><i></i>

Nope.

Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2003 12:07 am
by adeyke
In both EGA versions, "fill" worked even if you weren't near water. Furthermore, in the AGI version, it explicitly says that you're saying the word. The idea that the bowl must be filled with water seems rather wide-spread, but I don't see anything in the games that could support this. <p></p><i></i>

Ambiguous interpretation

Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2003 12:18 am
by fluxmaster
What I probably did was walk up to a lake and type "FILL THE BOWL." The parser saw the word "FILL" and filled the bowl with soup. Since I typed "FILL THE BOWL" and not "SAY FILL," I assumed that Graham was FILLing and not SAYing. The parser does not distinguish between saying something aloud and doing something, so I suppose that if Graham walked up to the troll, and I typed "GIVE DIAMOND," it could be interpreted either as having Graham give the diamond to the troll, or as Graham saying "GIVE DIAMOND" to the troll.<br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.replinemeadowsoftware.com" target="top">Repline Meadow Software</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br>The Fluxmaster <p></p><i></i>

Re: Ambiguous interpretation

Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2003 1:44 am
by anathoth8
IIRC, just typing the command FILL was all that was required in the EGA version. That would explain the discrepency if I am right. <p><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://www.shadowwebs.co.uk/images/gansig.jpg" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br>"Let me show you what hope you have."</p><i></i>

How to say fill

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2004 10:33 am
by dj
with your items list open double click on the bowl, and it will show the majic word then when you click it it will fill <p></p><i></i>