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Lip-sync

Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2003 8:38 pm
by Vel
Why dont you add lip-sync for the next version of KQ2VGA? <p></p><i></i>

Re: Lip-sync

Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2003 8:57 pm
by Erpy
There isn't going to be a next version of KQ2VGA. This one is the final one. After working on it for over a year, working on it is starting to get repetitive.<br><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://httpd.chello.nl/c.vanempel/Nashn ... <!--EZCODE IMAGE END--> <p></p><i></i>

?

Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2003 11:43 pm
by Vel
At least in the next releases? <p></p><i></i>

Re: ?

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2003 12:31 am
by Anonymous Game Creator 2
AGS doesn't currently support lip-sync with phenomes. And even if it did, it would still be a whole lot of extra effort to pre-sync every line of dialog in the game. <p></p><i></i>

Re: ?

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2003 12:56 pm
by optic
Lip-syncing isn't that neccessary...Most of the time, you're usually reading the text with the voice anyway...<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START ;) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/im ... s/wink.gif ALT=";)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://www.southwest.com.au/~jackie/signature.JPG" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--></p><i></i>

not so sure

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2003 9:46 pm
by Vel
I am not so sure. Infact, when there is voice available, I mostly look at the close-up picture, expecting to see synchronization at least to some extent. <p></p><i></i>

Re: not so sure

Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2003 1:38 pm
by optic
Alright...that would be true...but be reasonable...after all this hard working team produces games free to revive the adventure game series...<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START ;) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/im ... s/wink.gif ALT=";)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://www.southwest.com.au/~jackie/signature.JPG" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--></p><i></i>

Re: not so sure

Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2003 6:03 pm
by MusicallyInspired
Plus, as AGD2 said, it's not even possible anyway. <p><!--EZCODE HR START--><hr /><!--EZCODE HR END--><br>"Requires MCGA, CGA, VGA, PGA, or TA-RA-RA-BOOMGA!!" <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>-Gary Owens, SQ4</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br></p><i></i>

Re: not so sure

Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2003 2:26 am
by MuzlakOofmay
Have you played KQ1VGA with voices? I have to say that KQ2 is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better. The mouths actually look like they "could" have said it in KQ2. Plus, I like how the head moves as they talk. It seems very natural, but no one else agrees <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/im ... /smile.gif ALT=":)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://www.nancycarterdesign.com/bryce/pimpbot.gif" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br>----------<br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.nancycarterdesign.com/spongefactory/" target="top">Sponge Factory</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--></p><i></i>

Re: not so sure

Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2003 2:37 am
by TakariFreak
I agree! But it's better if the speed is higher. Otherwise, that movemtn is too slow, and it looks really odd! If it's going pretty fast, then it seems more natural to me. <p><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://www.dark-stars.net/entei.gif" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--></p><i></i>

I do........................................................

Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2003 2:47 am
by The Knight
I liked the KQ2 dialouge pics better than KQ1VGA's. And I agree that its better to have the speed up. But if its too high then it looks like they have had too much coffee. But the dialouge pics are much better none the less. <p>The Knight<br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://image1ex.villagephotos.com/1799499.jpg" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--></p><i></i>

Re: I do....................................................

Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2003 3:01 pm
by optic
Too much coffee? Ha ha! I suppose, not that I've even drank Coffee before...<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :\ --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/im ... ohwell.gif ALT=":\"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://www.southwest.com.au/~jackie/signature.JPG" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--></p><i></i>

YOu don'....................................................

Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2003 2:28 am
by The Knight
Just lots of caffiene in general. You would think thier head would fall off at that speed. <p>The Knight<br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://image1ex.villagephotos.com/1799499.jpg" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--></p><i></i>

Re: YOu don'................................................

Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2003 3:06 am
by anathoth8
The only amibient animation that looked too fast for me was the bobbing mer-people in Neptune's throne room. I know they were floating in the water, but the up and down motion just seemed a bit too fast is all. <p><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://image1ex.villagephotos.com/1679471.jpg" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br>"May the way of the hero<br>lead to the Triforce."</p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://pub57.ezboard.com/broyalquestfor ... athoth8</A> at: 4/22/03 10:07:09 pm<br></i>

fgdgdfgdgd................................................

Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2003 3:23 am
by The Knight
Yeah I guess it is a little too fast. But not that much of a problem. All in all, the game is great. Sure it has its imperfections. But all games do. <p>The Knight<br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://image1ex.villagephotos.com/1799499.jpg" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--></p><i></i>

Re: fgdgdfgdgd..............................................

Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2003 4:26 am
by anathoth8
What the heck kind of topic is that, The Knight?<br><br>I wasn't trying to criticize. OK, I guess I was. I wasn't trying to complain. I was just pointing it out. It seemed to go somewhat in line with the current topic. I love the game. I've played it several times. I'm sure I will play it again at some point. It's just pointless nitpicking. That's all. Don't be so overprotective. <p><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://image1ex.villagephotos.com/1679471.jpg" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br>"May the way of the hero<br>lead to the Triforce."</p><i></i>

Re: fgdgdfgdgd..............................................

Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2003 5:26 am
by optic
Anathoth8, I don't think he was being Over-protective...more like trying to prevent trouble from starting... <p><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://www.southwest.com.au/~jackie/signature.JPG" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--></p><i></i>

Or...

Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2003 5:30 am
by Wolfgang Abenteuer
Or trying to prevent Vildern from getting too far ahead of him in posts... <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START ;) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/im ... s/wink.gif ALT=";)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br>~Wolfgang <p></p><i></i>

Re: Or...

Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2003 6:00 am
by optic
Uhh...that too...<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START ;) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/im ... s/wink.gif ALT=";)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://www.southwest.com.au/~jackie/signature.JPG" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--></p><i></i>

Re: Or...

Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2003 6:27 am
by anathoth8
No, sorry. I was just joking more than anything else. It just seems like other people nitpick a lot, and whenever I do just a little, someone steps up and says, "Hey! Stop that! It's a great game! You have no right to criticize it!" Just a little bit of sour grapes, I guess.<br><br>All right, everyone back to your regularly scheduled programs now. <p><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://image1ex.villagephotos.com/1679471.jpg" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br>"May the way of the hero<br>lead to the Triforce."</p><i></i>

Re: ?

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2003 12:12 am
by Pidgeot
I may be wrong, but I think the AGS to-do list included automatic lip syncing. <p>Pidgeot<br>-----<br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Every error you find is the last one.</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--></p><i></i>

Re: ?

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2003 5:39 am
by optic
Well, even if it <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>did</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> support it, you won't be see it being implemented in the next version of KQ2VGA (if there ever will be one). As mentioned by Erpy, after working on it for over a year, it is getting a bit tiresome...<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START ;) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/im ... s/wink.gif ALT=";)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://www.southwest.com.au/~jackie/signature.JPG" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--></p><i></i>

Re: ?

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2003 6:44 am
by anathoth8
Yeah, what optic said. Besides that, they would still have to go back and create drawings of all the characters with their mouths in appropiate positions for every phenome, and that would take a loooooooooooooooooooooooooong time. (Pardon my excessive use of o's. I think I have been using Goooooooooooogle toooooooooooooo much <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :lol --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/im ... /laugh.gif ALT=":lol"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> ) <p><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://image1ex.villagephotos.com/1679471.jpg" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br>"May the way of the hero<br>lead to the Triforce."</p><i></i>

Re: ?

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2003 6:48 am
by optic
Ah...Google is one of my favourite Search Engines...<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/im ... /smile.gif ALT=":)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://www.southwest.com.au/~jackie/signature.JPG" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--></p><i></i>

Actually...........................................

Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2003 12:13 am
by The Knight
ACtually the newest version of AGS(which version 2 of KQ2:RTs is in.), does have lip-sync support. I have it so I would know. It has been implemented already. <p>The Knight<br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://image1ex.villagephotos.com/1799499.jpg" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--></p><i></i>