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something odd.....
Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2003 2:19 am
by Haley
Hagatha said that when the "foolish" male admirers saw Valanice (in the intro), they forgot that she was the most beautiful in her day. But all her male admirers would be dead considering how old she is. <p></p><i></i>
Re: something odd.....
Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2003 2:37 am
by Erpy
Hagatha's a bit deluded on the whole beauty-thing. She thinks that if all the pretty women are gone from the land, all the guys will go for her. She overlooks the fact that she's no longer a pretty dame.<br><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="
http://httpd.chello.nl/c.vanempel/Nashs ... <!--EZCODE IMAGE END--> <p></p><i></i>
also...
Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2003 5:32 am
by Haley
Also, it's hard to imagine Hagatha ever being beautiful or young! Heeheehee! <p></p><i></i>
Re: also...
Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2003 5:46 am
by Erpy
It's not hard to imagine her young. Just give her a youth potion.<br><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="
http://httpd.chello.nl/c.vanempel/Nashm ... <!--EZCODE IMAGE END--> <p></p><i></i>
yes
Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2003 5:53 am
by Haley
Yes it is! Take a good look at her! Can you believe someone that old and ugly was once young and beautiful when they were young? I sure can't!<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :lol --><img src=
http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/im ... /laugh.gif ALT=":lol"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i></i>
Also
Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2003 8:27 pm
by Haley
Also after Graham breaks poor Murray, the skull looks intact from the south of the cave. And why can't we see the cross on Graham after he puts it on? <p></p><i></i>
Re: Also
Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2003 8:54 pm
by Erpy
KQ2VGA already had a massive amount of animations, and we felt that adding another large amount of frames, just for the cross, wasn't worth it.<br><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="
http://httpd.chello.nl/c.vanempel/Nashs ... <!--EZCODE IMAGE END--> <p></p><i></i>
Indeed.
Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2003 9:15 pm
by adeyke
At least there is a set of animations for wearing the cloak, unlike in the original. Considering that you never actually have to wear the cross, the extra effort would just not be worth it. <p></p><i></i>
Re: Indeed.
Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2003 11:09 pm
by MuzlakOofmay
If they were to make seperate animations for the cross, not only would that be a waste of time, but they'd need to then make animations for when you are wearing the cross and the cloak. And I believe there are 8 frames for graham in each direction, so we're looking at 64 new frames just for something so small. Now a neat idea (I'm not sure if this is possible in AGS) would be to take a sprite that would "follow" graham around, and be drawn on top of graham. <p><br>---------<br><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="
http://www.nancycarterdesign.com/bryce/frank.gif" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br>"Why do you wear that stupid bunny suit?"<br>"Why are you wearing that stupid man suit?"<br>----------<br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="
http://www.nancycarterdesign.com/spongefactory/" target="top">Sponge Factory</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--></p><i></i>
Re: Indeed.
Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2003 11:23 pm
by Erpy
It's possible. The fairy godmother spell acted on a similar principle. The biggest issue remains the time that has to be put into positioning each cross-frame correctly on the character. In the end, you might as well create extra frames with the cross drawn on them because having the cross follow Graham around will make it look like it's floating in front of Graham instead of him wearing it unless you animate it very, very precisely and accurately.<br><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="
http://httpd.chello.nl/c.vanempel/Nasht ... <!--EZCODE IMAGE END--> <p></p><i></i>
What about...
Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2003 11:28 pm
by Haley
Poor Murray being broken and then looking intact to the south of the cave? <p></p><i></i>
Re: What about...
Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2003 1:11 am
by Erpy
Just something that was overlooked.<br><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="
http://httpd.chello.nl/c.vanempel/Nashc ... <!--EZCODE IMAGE END--> <p></p><i></i>
What do..
Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2003 5:00 am
by Haley
What do ya mean overlooked? <p></p><i></i>
Re: What do..
Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2003 2:08 pm
by Erpy
Overlooked as in...not having throught of creating a separate sprite to glue over the background in the Possum-screen to indicate the broken skull from a distance.<br><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="
http://httpd.chello.nl/c.vanempel/Nasht ... <!--EZCODE IMAGE END--> <p></p><i></i>
> something odd.......
Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2003 7:54 pm
by Seraphina004
About Hagatha and her foolish male admirerers, perhaps she meant the young men that admired Valanice and ignored her.<br><br>*SPOILER*<br>.<br>.<br>.<br>.<br>.<br>.<br>.<br>.<br>.<br>.<br>.<br>.<br>.<br>.<br>.<br> Remember the lion guarding Valanice's door? He was Hagatha's suitor as a young man, and he said she was attractive when she was young. I think Hagatha's ugliness, green skin, pointed ears and warts are the result of a curse, from practicing witchcraft, after all normal people don't turn green and get pointy ears when they age. Perhaps she turned ugly because of her evil heart. <p></p><i></i>
ahh
Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2003 9:44 pm
by Haley
Why wouldn't the young men ignore Hagatha? That the fact she's too old for them and she's a hideous old toad. <p></p><i></i>
and something else
Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2003 12:06 am
by Haley
When Angelina finishes the youth potion, she says "all I need DO now is drink it". Shouldn't that be "All I need TO do is drink."? <p></p><i></i>
Re: and something else
Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2003 12:11 am
by Erpy
It's a special sentence structure. I'm not very knowledgable in english grammar (Wolfgang should be able to explain), but I don't think it's faulty grammar.<br><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="
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Re: and something else
Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2003 12:57 am
by Wolfgang Abenteuer
For not being very knowledgable about English grammar, Erpy, you speak better than half of the native English speakers I know! <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :p --><img src=
http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/im ... tongue.gif ALT=":p"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br>Yes, well, anyway... Relight is the resident English major here at Tierra, so he can probably explain in greater detail than I, but basically all that's happening there is that the "to" is being omitted in the infinitive construction, which is not always against the grammar rules. You've likely heard the expression, "You needn't be (something)", which is also correct. I'm not sure what the exact rule is on the matter (again...Relight could probably clarify), but it's not always necessary to add in "to" before a usage of the infinitive of the verb. It may depend on whether the verb is transient or intransient (i.e. whether they require a direct object or not), but I'm not positive. For example, saying, "I need eat (something)" would be wrong, since you would need <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>to eat</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>something</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> (followed by a noun), whereas Angelina was going to do something (followed by a verb). It would be improper to say, "I need do (or wash) the dishes.", since "dishes" is a noun.<br><br>Whew...I think that's the reason, anyway! Again, Relight could probably correct me on that but I think I'm at least on the right track! <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :p --><img src=
http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/im ... tongue.gif ALT=":p"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br>~Wolfgang <p></p><i></i>
where are you from?
Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2003 5:47 am
by Haley
Where are you and Erpy from? <p></p><i></i>
Re: where are you from?
Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2003 11:13 am
by MuzlakOofmay
Wolfgang is a resident of the US IIRC, and Erpy is a resident of Denmark? <p>---------<br><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="
http://www.nancycarterdesign.com/bryce/sign.gif" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br>"No one expects the Spanish Inquisition!"<br>----------<br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="
http://www.nancycarterdesign.com/spongefactory/" target="top">Sponge Factory</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--></p><i></i>
Nope.
Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2003 11:33 am
by adeyke
Netherlands. <p></p><i></i>
Re: Nope.
Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2003 2:15 pm
by Erpy
Yes, I'm a dutchie and Wolfgang is from the USA.<br><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="
http://httpd.chello.nl/c.vanempel/Nashs ... <!--EZCODE IMAGE END--> <p></p><i></i>
no wonder..
Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2003 11:37 pm
by Haley
No wonder you don't know English grammar very well. <p></p><i></i>
Re: no wonder..
Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2003 1:24 am
by MuzlakOofmay
Dangit. I was about to say Netherlands too. <p>---------<br><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="
http://www.nancycarterdesign.com/bryce/sign.gif" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br>"No one expects the Spanish Inquisition!"<br>----------<br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="
http://www.nancycarterdesign.com/spongefactory/" target="top">Sponge Factory</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--></p><i></i>