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Witches...

#1 Post by Sunray Jahh » Thu Dec 26, 2002 10:10 pm

I have never played the old KQ games, only Tierras two fantastic remakes... and therefor I have some questions...<br><br>Does the witch in KQ1 have a name, and is she related to Hagatha... and who is Hagathas sister "M" on the cage letter. And what are there relation to "The Father"???<br><br>Maybe stupid questions, but i would like to know! <p></p><i></i>

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Answer

#2 Post by Farlander » Fri Dec 27, 2002 12:52 am

The witch from KQ1 isn't relaited to Hagatha. Hagatha's BROTHER is Manaan (I don't know his spelling very wel), the wizard from KQ3. I don't really understand the relation to The Father. <p></p><i></i>

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Re: Answer

#3 Post by Vildern » Fri Dec 27, 2002 2:25 am

Manannan. From KQ3.<br><br>The witch from KQ1 wasnt first thought of in Sierra's studios <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/im ... /smile.gif ALT=":)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> . She, like many other characters from KQ1 and two, is taken from a fairy tale. That witch is from (sp!) Hancel and Gratel (sp!).<br><br> <p></p><i></i>

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Re: Answer

#4 Post by Sunray Jahh » Fri Dec 27, 2002 4:37 am

Yes, I know. In Denmark, they are known as "Hans og Grete"...<br><br>The KQ1 witch could have been related to Hagatha... U know, Little Red Riding Hood is related to the vampire, and Rumplestlitskin is related to the bridge troll...<br><br>Does Hagatha and Manannan have other relatives... it is a bit interesting... <p></p><i></i>

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Yes.

#5 Post by adeyke » Fri Dec 27, 2002 4:53 am

Mordack, the villain of KQ5, is also their brother. <p></p><i></i>

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Re: Yes.

#6 Post by Vildern » Fri Dec 27, 2002 7:04 pm

Hans og Grete you say? Well that sounds like in the original, but in hebrew the names are totaly different: Ami VeTami <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/im ... /smile.gif ALT=":)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i></i>

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Cool

#7 Post by Sunray Jahh » Fri Dec 27, 2002 7:21 pm

That sounds like a magik spell or something... <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START >D --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/im ... s/grin.gif ALT=" >D"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i></i>

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Re: Cool

#8 Post by Vildern » Fri Dec 27, 2002 8:44 pm

Maybe it does. Well, Hebrew is the language of magic <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/im ... /smile.gif ALT=":)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> For example: Did you know that in ancient Hebrew The spell from Disney: 'Abra Kadabra' means in old-old Hebrew : 'Create a thing' (in translation), in modern Hebrew its abit-bit different, like: 'Bra Davar', instead of 'Abra Kadabra'.<br><br> <p></p><i></i>

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#9 Post by Sunray Jahh » Fri Dec 27, 2002 8:59 pm

The Danish words for "create a thing" is "lav en ting"...<br>That's not very magic, as it also means that you have to poo! <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :o --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/im ... rassed.gif ALT=":o"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i></i>

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Now I remember!

#10 Post by Farlander » Tue Dec 31, 2002 1:23 pm

Now I remember! Dahlia! King Edward saved her, and then married. But on next day Dahlia robbed the castle (took the magic chest) and then transformed into witch.<br>And what is witch's name in KQ5? <p></p><i></i>

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Re: Now I remember!

#11 Post by Erpy » Tue Dec 31, 2002 4:24 pm

The hag in the dark forest doesn't have a name.<br><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://httpd.chello.nl/c.vanempel/Nasht ... <!--EZCODE IMAGE END--> <p></p><i></i>

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#12 Post by Anonymous Game Creator 2 » Tue Dec 31, 2002 6:06 pm

The story of Dahlia and Edward can be read in the HTML manual that comes with KQ1VGA. It's copied word for word from the original KQ1 manual. <p></p><i></i>

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Re: Now I remember!

#13 Post by Storm » Thu Jan 02, 2003 7:06 am

The witch Dahlia in KQ1 suffers from lack of motivation - did she steal the chest to give it to the giant? is she just the witch from Hansel & Gretel, looking for a snack?<br>Also the witch in KQ5 - every kq has a witch... (well, every kq with Graham in it) <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :p --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/im ... tongue.gif ALT=":p"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i></i>

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Re: Now I remember!

#14 Post by Vildern » Thu Jan 02, 2003 10:47 pm

Hammm...KQ7 and KQVIII (swamp region) both contain a witch also, and KQ4 (3 witches inside that cave). <br><br>Better said: Every king's quest, without Alex. playing in it, has a witch.<br>I mean all KQs have a witch, apart from KQ3 and KQ6 <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/im ... /smile.gif ALT=":)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br>If I'm not mistaken... <p></p><i></i>

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Re: Now I remember!

#15 Post by Storm » Wed Jan 08, 2003 12:51 pm

Kq7 & kq4 had a witch? Malicia & Lolote are evil fairies, not witches. As for the 3 hags in the KQ4 - they're gorgons, aren't they? you know, Medusa's sisters from the greek mythology, who shared one eye and one tooth <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :D --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/im ... /happy.gif ALT=":D"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i></i>

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#16 Post by Erpy » Wed Jan 08, 2003 2:09 pm

No, gorgons were creatures like Medusa with snakey hair and a petrifying gaze. I don't remember the actual name right now, but the three sisters with one eye only pointed the location of the gorgons to Perseus. (after he stole their eye to make them cooperate)<br><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://httpd.chello.nl/c.vanempel/Nasht ... <!--EZCODE IMAGE END--> <p></p><i></i>

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Re: Now I remember!

#17 Post by Kijyata » Wed Jan 08, 2003 5:34 pm

Those are the Moirae, or Grey Sisters. <p></p><i></i>

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Re: Now I remember!

#18 Post by Storm » Thu Jan 09, 2003 5:49 am

Erpy - <br><br>"Graeae (GREE-ee) (or Gray sisters)<br><br>Two (or three) sisters, variously described as hags or swan-like from birth. In any case, they had but one eye and one tooth in common. "<br> <br> - From The Encyclopedia of Greek Mythology<br><br>And just for fun, the whole story of it:<br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.mythweb.com/encyc/entries/pe ... <!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>Kijyata - <br>The Moirae are the three fates, and that's KQ7. <p></p><i></i>

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Re: Now I remember!

#19 Post by Kijyata » Thu Jan 09, 2003 8:20 am

I typed Graeae at first and then thought no, isn't that just the Roman/Latin name for them? Guess I misremembered... (I knew it wasn't Erinyes, that's the <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Furies</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END-->.) <p></p><i></i>

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talking about the witch from kq1

#20 Post by Derek3646 » Sat Jun 14, 2003 2:22 am

I'm trying to get into her house but she keep doing that Nibble Nibble like a mouse line and i try it before I got the shield and I just ate the house and made no hole. Help me!<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :rollin --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/im ... s/roll.gif ALT=":rollin"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i></i>

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Re: Now I remember!

#21 Post by Erpy » Sat Jun 14, 2003 2:31 am

Leave the screen and re-enter. Sooner or later, she'll be out and you can enter.<br><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://httpd.chello.nl/c.vanempel/Nashs ... <!--EZCODE IMAGE END--> <p></p><i></i>

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grey sisters

#22 Post by charchar » Sat Jun 14, 2003 3:55 am

those gorgon are also known as the Grey Sister's!<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :D --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/im ... /happy.gif ALT=":D"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br><br>THE GRAEAE - The Grey Sisters, three old Goddesses who lived in the north. They had only one eye and one tooth. When Perseus traveled north to kill Medusa, he needed guidance from the Grey Sisters; but knowing that they would not reveal any information willingly (the Gorgons were their relatives after all), he stole their only eye and gave it back only after they gave him directions. <br><br>except i don't like how they capture rosella, that is if she gets captured, i look like there hugging her or something, wierd?<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :o --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/im ... rassed.gif ALT=":o"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i></i>

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Minitour!

#23 Post by charchar » Sat Jun 14, 2003 4:00 am

but whats more populare, intreting, mysterous, and cool is the in Minitour, <br><br>MINOTAUR - An evil monster, half-bull, half-man. Minos, king of Crete, held the minotaur in a great labyrinth where he would throw in Athenian prisoners to feed the beast. Theseus, the famous hero, managed to find his way in the labyrinth and killed the minotaur with the help of princess Ariadne, who gave him a ball of thread to find his way in and out of the labyrinth. <br><br>but the first part of his name, makes him sound little, why don't they call him the Bigutour? they say he's a giant!<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :o --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/im ... rassed.gif ALT=":o"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br> <p></p><i></i>

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Re: Minitour!

#24 Post by Wolfgang Abenteuer » Sat Jun 14, 2003 5:09 am

I believe that he's called the <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Mino</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END-->taur because Theseus was taken to that island my Minos. <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Taur</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> is of latin origin meaning "bull" (<!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>taureau</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> is French for "bull", <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>toro</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> is Spanish) and I believe that <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>taurus</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> is Greek...feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, anyone! <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :p --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/im ... tongue.gif ALT=":p"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> Thus the Minotaur is the bull from Minos. Then again, I may be way off base and Minotaur means something else in Greek, so again feel free to correct me here, guys!<br><br>~Wolfgang <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://pub57.ezboard.com/broyalquestfor ... s>Wolfgang Abenteuer</A> at: 6/14/03 12:10 am<br></i>

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Re: Minitour!

#25 Post by Erpy » Sat Jun 14, 2003 2:26 pm

No, the actual reason he's called the minotaur is something else, which may be a tad disturbing. (but also an example of why Greek mythology is so darn fun to read)<br><br>As you may know, Minos was the king of Crete. At one time, he asked the gods to allow him to show them his devotion. He asked for a bull which he would, in turn, sacrifice to them again. (pretty weird, but appearantly the gods didn't think so) Anyway, that came to pass and a magnificent bull came out of the sea for Minos to conduct the sacrificial ceremony on. He was, however, too much in awe for the beautiful animal to let it go like that and decided to sacrifice an ordinary bull while keeping the special one for himself. The gods were a tad angry at that act and punished him in a rather creative way. They made Minos' wife fall in love with the bull. The Minotaur (tauros of Minos = bull of Minos) was the child of Minos' wife and the sacred bull. Since the Minotaur was a man-eating monster, Minos had a labyrinth built for it.<br><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://httpd.chello.nl/c.vanempel/Nashh ... <!--EZCODE IMAGE END--> <p></p><i></i>

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