What our art looks like (warning: graphically heavy thread)

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moonlit · #1 Post by **moonlit** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 10:34 pm

To show off (no, keep your clothes on :-) , I mean to show of your artistic skills).

Post your greatest or latest pcitures in high resolution. Ok, here are a few of my own I like most:

The picture I like most, I like the warm colors and the organic look of everything:
http://moonlit.xs4all.nl/pics/gatewater.png

tribute to the SQ series:

http://moonlit.xs4all.nl/pics/SQ4002.png

My latest finished picture:

http://moonlit.xs4all.nl/pics/swamp.png

Regards, Ron AF Greve

Angelus3K · #2 Post by **Angelus3K** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 10:38 pm

I love your style, I'd love to play a game that looked like those screens!

moonlit · #3 Post by **moonlit** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 10:44 pm

Thanks, angelus. Though the last pciture is indeed from a game I have in mind (and I wrote a small part of the 2D engine) it is going to take me a lot of time to finish. Currently I am drawing the fourth picture. With an average game doing 50 or 100 pics and all the animations.. hmm I figure it would be 2015 or so :-(

Regards, Ron AF Greve.

Da_elf · #4 Post by **Da_elf** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 11:04 pm

my artwork isnt 2d stuff like you guys. i live more in the realm of video/audio editing, special effects, 3d animation and architectural visualisation. its tough for me to choose one single one i like but i guess ill just post one of my more recent ones.

http://www.elfpro3d.com/GS/Marina/test20.jpg

for non work stuff ive always loved one of these from an old project

http://pages.infinit.net/elfpro/tower1.jpg

moonlit · #5 Post by **moonlit** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 11:19 pm

Hi Da_elf, these pictures look awesome, How much time did you spend on those. Did you also draw the textures for house, wall and flags?

Regards, Ron AF Greve.

Da_elf · #6 Post by **Da_elf** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 11:26 pm

ive been doing this for quite some time now so ive got a large library of images to use as textures.

moonlit · #7 Post by **moonlit** » Sun May 01, 2005 11:44 am

Damn, my server died overnight.

Guess I have to configure a new system and then read back the backup.

(Makes mental note, "next time make a backup BEFORE the server dies" ).

Music Head · #8 Post by **Music Head** » Tue May 03, 2005 1:49 pm

OMG

evil talking green things

Klytos · #9 Post by **Klytos** » Tue May 03, 2005 2:23 pm

Love the space quest 4 screen. It rocks.

moonlit · #10 Post by **moonlit** » Wed May 04, 2005 11:45 pm

Thanks for your SQ4 interpretation Music Head :-)

Thanks klytos, how does that complete freedom feel there down under, (something we suburbians miss completely)?

Regards, Ron AF Greve.

Fribbi · #11 Post by **Fribbi** » Fri May 06, 2005 8:48 pm

There is one thing I don't understand. Why hasn't Erpy deleted that first picture of that half naked woman because when I was displaying my screenshot picture of a naked woman (Tawni) from the Sierra game Leisure suit Larry he deleted that so quicly so nobody can see it but him. But there was no breast there to see. Just a woman huging herself while see was watching at the ocean.

I am not angry because of this I just find it strange why he did that to me but leave this picture of half naked woman with a big coconuts-breast alone. I am not trying to say I don't like that picture I just want to know why he hasn't yet deleted that unsensored picture because he has warn me that I shall not display something like that one in any forums here because it is against the rule. :(

BTW I really like what I have seen here. You are all truly better than me.

moonlit · #12 Post by **moonlit** » Fri May 06, 2005 9:08 pm

Hi Fribbi,

I don't see anything pornographic in the picture above. So there shouldn't be a reason to delete it (if I thought there was something I wouldn't have posted it in the first place).

Was the woman in your picture doing something sexual. I can't believe a picture of a woman doing nothing is deleted. I take it the 'huging' means hugging?

Maybe post the picture on your own site so we can judge ourselves :-)

Regards, Ron AF Greve.

Alias · #13 Post by **Alias** » Fri May 06, 2005 9:19 pm

Fribi, stop complaining. Like Moonlit said, its not a LSL sexual scene or a woman feeling her breasts or whatever the LSL games have. :p Its not porn if you watch a documentry on tribes in africa, they dont wear tops. So take it easy. And I agree your work is pretty good. ;)

Angelus3K · #14 Post by **Angelus3K** » Sat May 07, 2005 9:41 am

Moonlit, why dont you use an engine such as AGS like AGDI do?

That way all you have to do is make the screens, anims and code etc without having to create an engine.

I'd pay to play a game with the quality of those screens.

moonlit · #15 Post by **moonlit** » Sat May 07, 2005 9:54 am

Well, I haven't completely decided whether to write my own or use AGS.

Although writing one of my own takes time, it also reduces time a bit. For instance by writing an export plugin for the gimp I can save directly into my own resource format, including layers and alpha transparency (that part already works though I need to extend it with walkpaths etc.).

Though I may still underestimate writing the engine, for me it is the drawing and later on especially the animations that are going to take most time. Probably going to do the animations with blender. Unfortunately I still find it difficult to model creatures and animations in blender (due to my lack of understanding certain things, not blenders capabilities). Though I luckily am reasonably skilled now in the quite complex blender interface with its modes, states and numerous buttons :-) .

Fribbi · #16 Post by **Fribbi** » Sat May 07, 2005 7:16 pm

Like I said I have nothing against that picture of that half naked lady I really love it.

But I just find it odd that Erpy deleted my image when there was nothing pornographic in that image I uploaded in my Leisure Suit Larry 3 VGA remake thread either.

PS: TO MOONLIT:
I don't have that picture now. It was destroyed in my old computer.

moonlit · #17 Post by **moonlit** » Sat May 07, 2005 7:49 pm

Oh, well. Only Erpy can answer this, I guess or anyone that has actual seen your picture. The only thing I know is that the forum-rules don't say anything about nudity, only about porno. My picture is clearly not pornographic (it is not displaying or insinuating a sexual act, yes this is just my definition of porno).

But I have to admit that the LSL game pictures (played all of them myselve) are also quite innocent, on the other hand they of course do try to be pornographic. I think that is what the game is about in the first place.

Personally and trying to be a christian; I really don't understand why pornography is such a big deal (so, for that I am on your side fribbi, but see my final line), I mean where do we come from anyway? Let's care about the real important stuff; our fellow human beings. Care about what you say and do and the way it effects others, all the time, that is difficult enough.

However this is AGD's board. And they put the time in it to maintain it. It is their good right to decide whether to allow certain things or not. If we do not agree we can always start our own forum (with more broad minded graphics, job applications etc.). Forums/servers/bandwidth are a dime a dozen these days :-), so starting a new forum somewhere is easy, don't know how many people would visit it ;-)

Regards, Ron AF Greve.

Angelus3K · #18 Post by **Angelus3K** » Sat May 07, 2005 8:51 pm

I think the main reason is that this is a family board.

But the pic you posted is clearly in a tribal context and I think isnt pornographic at all.

Swift · #19 Post by **Swift** » Sun May 08, 2005 5:15 am

Nice pics.

The thing about pornography is that some of them portray women as sex objects rather than human beings. I think that's why some people take offense at it. Nudity by itself is ok.

Blackthorne519 · #20 Post by **Blackthorne519** » Sun May 08, 2005 7:59 am

And no one presents MALES as sex objects! We're not just engorged hunks for the pleasure of the females!!!!!!!!

Uh. Anyway... let's make with the art, and discuss this topic somewhere else. I'm sure it could be an interesting discussion, but this thread (and these boards) aren't the right "forum" (MAN, I'm witty!) to discuss this in.

Bt

Charlemagne · #21 Post by **Charlemagne** » Sun May 08, 2005 6:06 pm

Blackthorne519 wrote:I'm sure it could be an interesting discussion, but this thread (and these boards) aren't the right "forum" (MAN, I'm witty!) to discuss this in.

Yeah, there are too many prudes here. It's funny, I can watch a guy getting his head blown off on CSI but breasts are taboo. Go figure.

Anyway, is this the right place to post some of my photographs? I'm not an "artist" like most of the people who've posted here but I am an amateur photographer and I'm quite proud of a couple of the pictures I've taken. (Of course, there are 10 bad shots for every good one.

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moonlit · #22 Post by **moonlit** » Sun May 08, 2005 7:56 pm

Yes, of course you can post your photos.

#23 Post by **Erpy** » Sun May 08, 2005 11:13 pm

Yeah, there are too many prudes here.

I question the validity of the notion that moderators are modding threads because of personal beliefs. In my case, I take no personal offense at stuff I remove, but simply do so because I believe it's the right thing to do with the interests of the forum in mind.

Anyway, Angelus hit the nail on the head about what made the scales tip regarding a decision I was rather torn on. For the record, in general nudity is treated similar to actual porn here.

Charlemagne · #24 Post by **Charlemagne** » Mon May 09, 2005 12:49 am

Erpy wrote:I question the validity of the notion that moderators are modding threads because of personal beliefs.

I wasn't referring to the moderators specifically. I just think that a lot of members here are prudes.

Erpy wrote:For the record, in general nudity is treated similar to actual porn here.

Well, that's a real shame.

I'll scan some of my negatives a post a few photos later. Don't worry, no nudity.

#25 Post by **Erpy** » Mon May 09, 2005 1:21 am

Well, that's a real shame.

Maybe, but I'd prefer to define a line for myself instead of having it defined and redefined by others. (and even then, grey zones that often remain)