When will QFG II Trial by Fire VGA + final be done?

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Thepal · #176 Post by **Thepal** » Tue Jan 23, 2007 12:56 am

And that wasn't including sound editors, composers, voice actors, etc. It would be very hard to get away with one for under 1 million, and that's for a very basic one.

I remember when QfG5 came out it had the longest credits I had ever seen.

Blackthorne519 · #177 Post by **Blackthorne519** » Tue Jan 23, 2007 3:23 am

Bt wrote:Costly? Why?

People have to live. This is a job to people.

Salaries... vary between $30,000-$80,000 (US). Sometimes even more, depending on position.

Artists and animators - 10 person team @ (say the lowest) =$300,000 dollars.

Programmers - 4 @ $50,000 = $200,000

Designer - 1 @ $50,000

Writers/Translators - 3 @ $35,000 = $105,000

Other Expendables = $20,000

TOTAL=$675, 000 (US) production budget.

Again, this is just a simple example off the top of my head with guess numbers. It's most likely higher. So it's almost a MILLION to make a game - not ship, advert, distrib... etc.

Bt

Thepal wrote:And that wasn't including sound editors, composers, voice actors, etc. It would be very hard to get away with one for under 1 million, and that's for a very basic one.

I remember when QfG5 came out it had the longest credits I had ever seen.

You're totally right. I didn't even consider them, which is a complete oversight on my part.

So, yes, it's really expensive to produce a game.

Bt

Shalkar · #178 Post by **Shalkar** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 11:50 am

Well, I am right so far. Its 2007. Three more years and it will be 2010 and the finishing touches for Quest for Glory II VGA+ will have the final touches. Damn.

Well, I guess I can dream about the game can't I? |I

Blackthorne519 · #179 Post by **Blackthorne519** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 2:58 pm

I like how you refer to it as "QFG II VGA+". I don't believe it's a "plus" game - not in any major way, like KQII+.

Anyway, I look forward to the release, which I don't think will be very long. I was thinking back to a few years ago when this forum bustled with interesting folks, and I long for (hopefully) a return from many forgotten friends.

Bt

Kurdt · #180 Post by **Kurdt** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 5:57 pm

It's getting pretty exciting. I expect to see the game sometime before the end of 2007. Every time I try and say what's up to navynuke on AIM he goes, "can't talk, busy testing, mumble mumble grumble..." I figure that means they're hard at work on it. If we're lucky, we might get a summer release. That'd be niiice.

natethomas · #181 Post by **natethomas** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 8:52 pm

I agree. As a lurker, I miss the times before the Drama of Fribbi, the endless questions of "when is it coming out," and the dramatic slowdown of thought-provoking and hilarious comments. Hopefully QFG2 will be the rebirth that this site is really needing.

Mostly, I'll be happy when I get to go back to lurker status, exclusively.

Stone The Crows · #182 Post by **Stone The Crows** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 3:59 pm

It has been a good run hasn't it. :lol
Never post much in the forums but have been sifting through them since '01 and they are usually entertaining enough to read through every week.
To me, after the game did not come out by '03 I stopped with the impatience and anticipation. Now with the idea that it will be wrapped up (perhaps...) sometime within the next 6-8 months, makes me wonder what other project will I find as good as QFG II VGA, that will make me visit the page whenever I get a free moment hoping the designer journals are updated?
This game has already killed what seems close to 2+ hours of my free time per week, and it's not even released! :lol

Quest For Glory Fan · #183 Post by **Quest For Glory Fan** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 7:01 pm

and when the game comes out it's not like we're all going to die. I know I'll be here for awhile atleast and I'm certain I'll love the hustleNbustleN new comers as much as everyone else. I remember when I joined about a month later Rambaldi left and everyone was so sad. By that time I didn't really understand why but even know I wish he along with Knight and the rest were back, on a simmilar note where has Vildern and Jafar been?

gamecreator · #184 Post by **gamecreator** » Sat Feb 24, 2007 4:59 am

Seems like anticipation is half the fun. Though I would argue half the fun is just playing half the game.

By the way, are we likely to see another trailer between now and when the game is released?

#185 Post by **Erpy** » Sat Feb 24, 2007 3:46 pm

Not very likely. There's only so much we could show before the public would already know how everything looked like before they even played it.

Stone The Crows · #186 Post by **Stone The Crows** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 9:28 pm

Erpy wrote:Not very likely. There's only so much we could show before the public would already know how everything looked like before they even played it.

I hear that. Thinking back on when I first played the QFG series as it was released(1989 and on) I can remember how much fun the games were, and conversely, how dated it is by todays standards... would be an eyesore if I jumped into the 1990 release now(if I could get it working and find all the burried documentation needed for the anti-piracy maze that is!). I could use an "Oh, wow!" moment after AGDI team releases this puppy to the masses.
But I have to say, from the first day I played the VGA remake of QFG I back in 1992, I started hoping there would be a remake of QFG II. Been a while but I'm still interested. Got good reason to believe I won't be disappointed either.

Jontas · #187 Post by **Jontas** » Thu Mar 01, 2007 6:54 am

Stone the Crows I like your signature, I assume it's a quote. Where's it from?

Sinister · #188 Post by **Sinister** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 4:53 am

QFG2 is a massive project, I doubt anyone can say.. "3 years is too long" after all the people of AGDI have been busy on other things too.

Though i've never played QFG2 from start to finish, I know its a large game with endless possibilties for bugs and unknown errors. So the question the fans should ask themselves is;

"Do you want a game that was rushed tomorrow, or a game that was carefully revised a few months later?"

The answer is quite obvious (to me ofcourse).

It'll be good to see these forums busy again and that extra surge of energy we all want in this community, be it a jolt for AGDI or IA , its always great to see the adventure game community come to life once more.

AGP · #189 Post by **AGP** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 6:07 am

They've been at it for six years, dude. Three years is from the time when they claimed it would be released that year.

But yay AGDI (seriously!).

Kurdt · #190 Post by **Kurdt** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 6:59 am

Well they haven't actually been working full-time on it for six years. People seem to forget that they were all kind of WORKING ON AL EMMO AND THE LOST DUTCHMAN'S MINE. I mean, they designed a full-length professional quality modern adventure game with 3D animations and sprites and a professional voice pack and stuff. It's for download on TellTale and stuff for money. They've really only intensely been working exclusively on QFG2 for about half that time, so the whole, "You guys are slackers" deal doesn't really apply. I mean, they've churned out two games in six years (being Al Emmo and QFG2). Most teams that have been together for longer than that haven't even come out with one. I'd say they're ahead of the game here.

MusicallyInspired · #191 Post by **MusicallyInspired** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 7:37 am

People seem to forget that they were all kind of WORKING ON AL EMMO AND THE LOST DUTCHMAN'S MINE.

Amen to that.

Klytos · #192 Post by **Klytos** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 4:46 pm

And who knows, they could be working on more than one project. Not just QFG2.

Sinister · #193 Post by **Sinister** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 5:34 pm

Yes, they did hint about other projects in their QFG2 designer journal.

Quest For Glory Fan · #194 Post by **Quest For Glory Fan** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 6:19 pm

they also said that it's likely QFG2 is their last project.

Music Head · #195 Post by **Music Head** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 10:44 pm

Did they ever reveal what this was from the 01-23-06 designers journals update?

We're also in the process of preparing somewhat of a surprise for the future (two of them, actually) which fans of the first two King's Quest remakes should enjoy, but to say any more at this point would be telling.

Sinister · #196 Post by **Sinister** » Sat Mar 03, 2007 4:49 am

Well the good thing is they can always do what they want despite any comments made in the past, It's not like you're going to sue them for not keeping their word on saying "maybe" it was their last project. :p

And yes, thats the hint I was talking about. They havent said anything about it..

Klytos · #197 Post by **Klytos** » Sat Mar 03, 2007 2:39 pm

I would speculate that their two remakes were to be included in the compilations yet something happened to stop that happening. Probably just corporate decision to not include them.

Quest For Glory Fan · #198 Post by **Quest For Glory Fan** » Sat Mar 03, 2007 11:04 pm

that's what I thought at the time but I don't think it was ever considered if you look at how bad the compilation actually turned out.

Stone The Crows · #199 Post by **Stone The Crows** » Sat Mar 24, 2007 12:41 am

Jontas wrote:Stone the Crows I like your signature, I assume it's a quote. Where's it from?

It was from a movie called "Waking Life". It's an alright movie, that one line just stood out the most to me. ;)

Grand Dad · #200 Post by **Grand Dad** » Thu Mar 29, 2007 10:14 am

Having played the entire series a number of time I just wonder if your project will be completed in my lifetime?

. Approaching 72 I am still active but for how long...2010 seems so far away |I
All the same wishing you all the best of luck!

When will QFG II Trial by Fire VGA + final be done?

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