Are points different in version 2

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Are points different in version 2

#1 Post by timosity » Thu Apr 03, 2003 6:58 pm

I noticed at the point when it happened, that when you kill the wolves you don't get the point you got in version 1.<br><br>So I restored and tried avoiding them and didn't get the point either.<br><br>I went back and killed them again, and when I reached the end of the game I got 184/185<br><br>Is this a bug or did you change the way points are achieved, Just curious. <p></p><i></i>

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Re: Are points different in version 2

#2 Post by Erpy » Thu Apr 03, 2003 7:05 pm

As mentioned in the readme and changes list, there's a non-violent way to avoid getting killed at the crossroads. It may be a bit obscure though, so good luck finding it.<br><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://members.chello.nl/c.vanempel/Nas ... <!--EZCODE IMAGE END--> <p></p><i></i>

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Stumped

#3 Post by timosity » Thu Apr 03, 2003 8:42 pm

This seems to be the only noticeable change, and I'm really stumped, I've used everything in my possession on the wolves and myself and no result.<br><br>Is there a new item to collect or something, this must be pretty obscure, I've even tried talking to myself and the wolves, you also can't pat them.<br><br>Is there a hint that could lead me in the right direction, I only played the game again to hear the voices and now, there's just 1 thing I need to know. <p></p><i></i>

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Re: Stumped

#4 Post by Erpy » Thu Apr 03, 2003 9:46 pm

There's an extra item for use against wolves. Unfortunately, I don't believe there's a real clue about its existence, but you could ask yourself who would have a reason to worry against wolves.<br><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://httpd.chello.nl/c.vanempel/Nasht ... <!--EZCODE IMAGE END--> <p></p><i></i>

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Found it - spoilers

#5 Post by timosity » Fri Apr 04, 2003 3:24 pm

***spoilers<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>I figured it out, but I thought it was quite a strange thing to do, The've replaced killing animals with Break and enter as well as robbing a dead person, If it was changed for moralistic reasons, the've just replaced bad with bad,<br><br>But I suppose you also dig up 2 graves and don't replace the dirt, digging them up is bad enough, but not replacing the dirt that's just criminal.<br><br>But enough with the jokes, it was a good little thing that will be hard for people to figure out, <br><br>I guess people will only notice this if they are playing for points. <p></p><i></i>

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Re: Found it - spoilers

#6 Post by Erpy » Fri Apr 04, 2003 3:30 pm

Under normal circumstances, we wouldn't put obscure things like these in, but this is an optional path and not needed to finish the game. (perfectionists are gonna check out every pixel anyway)<br><br>***spoilers<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>And about the robbing...the place has been abandoned and will likely stay that way. Besides: adventurers are kleptomaniacs, usually collecting everything that isn't nailed down and legitimate ownership be damned.<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :b --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/im ... tongue.gif ALT=":b"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://members.chello.nl/c.vanempel/Nas ... <!--EZCODE IMAGE END--> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://pub57.ezboard.com/broyalquestfor ... ms>Erpy</A>  <IMG HEIGHT=10 WIDTH=10 SRC="http://members.chello.nl/c.vanempel/icon.jpg" BORDER=0> at: 4/4/03 9:32:52 am<br></i>

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i was joking

#7 Post by timosity » Fri Apr 04, 2003 4:23 pm

Erpy, I was just joking, as I stated in my last post <p></p><i></i>

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How do you...

#8 Post by Haley » Fri Apr 04, 2003 7:45 pm

How do you get past the wolves without killing them? <p></p><i></i>

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Grandma

#9 Post by timosity » Sun Apr 06, 2003 4:00 pm

Grandma's house <p></p><i></i>

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Re: Grandma

#10 Post by Erpy » Sun Apr 06, 2003 4:49 pm

After she's gone. Search the place carefully.<br><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://httpd.chello.nl/c.vanempel/Nasht ... <!--EZCODE IMAGE END--> <p></p><i></i>

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Re: Grandma

#11 Post by Fender178 » Sat Apr 12, 2003 7:16 am

can u still kill the wolves and still get 185/185? total at the end of the game? <p></p><i></i>

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No.

#12 Post by adeyke » Sat Apr 12, 2003 7:27 am

Now, killing the wolves does not give a point but the new alternate solution does. <p></p><i></i>

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Where???

#13 Post by djsouza » Sat Apr 12, 2003 10:49 pm

I clicked with the hand and eye icons through all the furniture, walls and floorboards of the house and I still am not able to find the "missing pixel".<br><br>Could someone tell me exactly where the item is? <p></p><i></i>

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It's...

#14 Post by Wolfgang Abenteuer » Sat Apr 12, 2003 11:19 pm

Be sure that you're trying to find it <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>after</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> Grandma has left. Once she's gone (and the house is vacant), then you can search. I'll tell you that the item is in a very small and fragile glass vial, so it would need to be in a well-protected place. Try looking somewhere soft and "cushiony". <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START ;) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/im ... s/wink.gif ALT=";)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br>~Wolfgang <p></p><i></i>

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Re: It's...

#15 Post by Erpy » Sat Apr 12, 2003 11:49 pm

Note that you can only pick this up BEFORE getting the tiara. It'll no longer be there after you get back from the church.<br><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://httpd.chello.nl/c.vanempel/Nashn ... <!--EZCODE IMAGE END--> <p></p><i></i>

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Re: It's...

#16 Post by MuzlakOofmay » Sun Apr 13, 2003 1:22 am

The earliest save game I have is RIGHT AFTER getting the tiara. SIGH. <p><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://www.nancycarterdesign.com/bryce/pimpbot.gif" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br>----------<br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.nancycarterdesign.com/spongefactory/" target="top">Sponge Factory</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--></p><i></i>

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Now I got it!

#17 Post by djsouza » Sun Apr 13, 2003 4:07 am

Now I now what went wrong. I was trying to get the item after loading a savegame AFTER retrieving the tiara.<br><br>Thanks for the help! <p></p><i></i>

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??

#18 Post by Kimmie » Sun Apr 20, 2003 10:08 pm

could sumone tell me the exact place this item is?? ive been thinking cushiony (lol), i see a chair in gramma's house, but nothing happens... i am confused. direct spoiler???<br>Kimmie <p></p><i></i>

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Well...

#19 Post by Wolfgang Abenteuer » Sun Apr 20, 2003 11:13 pm

Chairs are cushiony (is that even a word or did I just make it up? <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :p --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/im ... tongue.gif ALT=":p"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> ). Beds are, too...so are some things on top of the bed...<br><br>~Wolfgang <p></p><i></i>

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