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Haley · #51 Post by **Haley** » Fri Mar 14, 2003 9:39 pm

I mean are you working on it right now and not doing anything else.

Broomie · #52 Post by **Broomie** » Fri Mar 14, 2003 10:54 pm

Before I answer your question, you seem to post alot Haley, but you are unregistered, why don't you register and become... ONE OF US!!! <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/im ... /devil.gif ALT=":evil"> <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/im ... /devil.gif ALT=":evil"> <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/im ... /devil.gif ALT=":evil"> Okay nothing evil about that, anyway back to your question. I'm sure, very sure, Tierra are working on their QFG2 project even as we speak, but they got to rest sometime... <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/im ... ohwell.gif ALT=":\"> <img src="http://users.domaindlx.com/Broomie/broomienew.jpg" style="border:0;"/>

etherlad · #53 Post by **etherlad** » Fri Mar 14, 2003 11:04 pm

I believe they're working on KQ1VGA 3.0 and KQ2+VGA 2.0 before they set their sights on QfG2VGA. _______________ Ian Watson http://www.wolf-spoor.org

Haley · #54 Post by **Haley** » Fri Mar 14, 2003 11:19 pm

What does 3.0 and 2.0 mean?

Wolfgang Abenteuer · #55 Post by **Wolfgang Abenteuer** » Fri Mar 14, 2003 11:36 pm

They are more recent versions of the games. In this case, KQ1VGA 3.0 will be compiled with a newer version of AGS which has a few more features than it had when KQ1VGA was originally released. That, and a few bugs that remained will be worked out so that v3.0 (the final release) will be top-notch and bug-free. There are also some minor additions, such as a hand icon for the inventory screen, a better looking inventory screen, etc. As for KQ2VGA 2.0, there will only be a few cosmetic changes taking place as well as the usual bug fixes. Since KQ2VGA was released recently, AGS hasn't changed that much since then so there won't be as many "touch-ups" as there will be in KQ1VGA. 2.0 should have all of the bugs worked out. ~Wolfgang

#56 Post by **Erpy** » Sat Mar 15, 2003 1:19 am

<blockquote>Quote:<hr>That, and a few bugs that remained will be worked out so that v3.0 (the final release) will be top-notch and bug-free.<hr></blockquote> A few bugs, eh? Well, I can certainly hear you weren't the one who had to fix them. <img src="http://httpd.chello.nl/c.vanempel/Nashu ...

Wolfgang Abenteuer · #57 Post by **Wolfgang Abenteuer** » Sat Mar 15, 2003 5:57 am

<blockquote>Quote:<hr>A few bugs, eh? Well, I can certainly hear you weren't the one who had to fix them.<hr></blockquote> Oh, did I say...? I mean a few bugs per screen! Sorry, I guess I forgot that part... <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/im ... s/wink.gif ALT=";)"> ~Wolfgang

Cadbury Wookie · #58 Post by **Cadbury Wookie** » Sun Mar 16, 2003 3:17 pm

Players of KQ2VGA 2.0 might find an alternative way of solving a particular puzzle. I'm not saying what it is, except that it was something that started to bother me after the game was released. Let's call it an "Anti-MOE" style approach. <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/im ... /smile.gif ALT=":)">

MuzlakOofmay · #59 Post by **MuzlakOofmay** » Sun Mar 16, 2003 9:35 pm

No offense wookie, but you really gave it away. I bet I already know the puzzle and the solution. <img src="http://www.nancycarterdesign.com/bryce/pimpbot.gif" style="border:0;"/> ---------- <a href="http://www.nancycarterdesign.com/spongefactory/" target="top">Sponge Factory</a>

#60 Post by **Erpy** » Sun Mar 16, 2003 10:48 pm

Oh, really? (promises himself not to laugh if Muzlack comes to the forum after the release of KQ2 2.0 and asks why he finished with 184 points) <img src="http://httpd.chello.nl/c.vanempel/Nashh ...

The Knight · #61 Post by **The Knight** » Sun Mar 16, 2003 10:58 pm

Don't tell me this is the Knight Time and Not to Knight descision in test 3? And that you removed the point for the option Not to Knight?!! Just wait til Storm hears about that. The Knight <img src="http://image1ex.villagephotos.com/1799499.jpg" style="border:0;"/>

#62 Post by **Erpy** » Mon Mar 17, 2003 1:38 am

You guys assume too much. <img src="http://httpd.chello.nl/c.vanempel/Nashc ...

#63 Post by **navynuke04** » Mon Mar 17, 2003 1:42 am

I wanna know! I wanna know! What's going to be different with version 2.0?  <hr /> "Without the fleet, the contest would be on our home grounds, and war is one contest in which it is best to be on the visiting team." -ADM Nimitz  <img src="http://navynuke.netfirms.com/ezboard/sub.gif" style="border:0;"/>

#64 Post by **Erpy** » Mon Mar 17, 2003 1:56 am

Ummm...lessee. Here's what I can come up with: 1) Anti-aliasing sprites. (new AGS-feature. Makes sprites look sharper) 2) Bug fixes 3) The altered puzzle situation Wookie spilled the beans about. 4) A few textual changes. (nothing spectacular) Umm...I could swear there was something else I was told about, but I can't recall at the moment. <img src="http://httpd.chello.nl/c.vanempel/Nashu ...

#65 Post by **navynuke04** » Mon Mar 17, 2003 1:58 am

Erm.... I guess I'll just have to wait for you guys to release it then... <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/im ... tongue.gif ALT=":p">  <hr /> "Without the fleet, the contest would be on our home grounds, and war is one contest in which it is best to be on the visiting team." -ADM Nimitz  <img src="http://navynuke.netfirms.com/ezboard/sub.gif" style="border:0;"/>

MuzlakOofmay · #66 Post by **MuzlakOofmay** » Mon Mar 17, 2003 4:17 am

This is my guess: The wolves scene maybe? Throw the ham at them? That's my guess. From a programmer's standpoint, this antialiasing thing sounds really cool. Unless CJ changed to Direct3D (which I highly doubt), writing a software anti-aliasing routine is nothing short of genious! I can't wait to see THAT in action! However, my only concern is that there will be a lot of extra code for the anti-aliasing, therefore slowing the end result (you have to do a lot of extra blitting). But, with my new computer, I should have no trouble with that! I'm excited for this! <img src="http://www.nancycarterdesign.com/bryce/pimpbot.gif" style="border:0;"/> ---------- <a href="http://www.nancycarterdesign.com/spongefactory/" target="top">Sponge Factory</a>

#67 Post by **Erpy** » Mon Mar 17, 2003 4:26 am

It's actually an option that can be turned on/off in the external setup util. (and yeah, it's slower) I believe somebody gave CJ a hand with the AA-code, but I can't remember who. <img src="http://httpd.chello.nl/c.vanempel/Nashn ...

The Knight · #68 Post by **The Knight** » Mon Mar 17, 2003 4:32 am

I assume that QFG2 will also have the feature, and that the AA feature can be turned on or off with the external setup, meaning the setup program the comes with the game. The Knight <img src="http://image1ex.villagephotos.com/1799499.jpg" style="border:0;"/>

#69 Post by **Anonymous Game Creator 2** » Mon Mar 17, 2003 2:24 pm

Actually, Anti-aliasing will be disabled, since it makes the graphics look worse, not better.

#70 Post by **Erpy** » Mon Mar 17, 2003 3:35 pm

Hmm, I personally didn't mind the way they looked. But then again, that's just me and my opinion. Sorry for the confusion. <img src="http://members.chello.nl/c.vanempel/Nas ...

Cadbury Wookie · #71 Post by **Cadbury Wookie** » Mon Mar 17, 2003 3:50 pm

I spilled the beans? Nearly. I spilled MY beans! (Besides, the alternative in question will require some 'digging' to 'uncover'. Afterall, it would take a great deal of 'shoveling' to 'unearth' the new puzzle solution. Ooops. I wasn't meant to give such an obvious hint away. Oh damn.)

MuzlakOofmay · #72 Post by **MuzlakOofmay** » Tue Mar 18, 2003 7:51 am

Yeah, while the feature IS very cool in theory, it's probably turn out bad in practice. It's too much work, and it doesn't look as DOSy. But it's definately a cool idea. Just an idea of mine (depends on how the code is written,) try running at the highest resolution, it should (depending on how the code is written) make the effect more subtle. <img src="http://www.nancycarterdesign.com/bryce/pimpbot.gif" style="border:0;"/> ---------- <a href="http://www.nancycarterdesign.com/spongefactory/" target="top">Sponge Factory</a>

#73 Post by **Anonymous Game Creator 2** » Tue Mar 18, 2003 11:10 pm

The thing is that anti-aliasing blurs the image so that all the pixels blend smoothly together when the character is scaled smaller on the screen. The result of this in KQ1VGA and KQ2VGA is that we get a very red-looking Graham sprite, which is darker than he appears at 100% (normal) zoom level. Since some animations (in both games) use objects to simulate specific character animations, the anti-aliasing would cause a weird-looking effect where the character might look blurry, then smooth, and then blurry again. Also, this is just my opinion, but I think Anti-aliasing is more a thing for people who aren't skilled at art and seek a way to make their graphics look 'better'. I think its real purpose is for 3D games. Some people may also be confusing anti-aliasing with alpha-blending. Anti-aliasing blends the entire sprite, but the edges still appear jagged. Alpha blending blends only the outside edges of the character sprite with the background so that he merges in smoothly with it.

MuzlakOofmay · #74 Post by **MuzlakOofmay** » Wed Mar 19, 2003 5:24 am

Oh yeah, alpha blending is really easy to do, although it still does take up processor cycles. What I believe I will be doing for MY adventure game engine will be the option of having a scaled image. Basically, it would allow you to draw the character at all the different % scaling that you'd like, thus making it look as perfect as you can afford. Maybe though, it would add a lot of art work to the project. My question is still unanswered though. If you run this at a higher resolution, is the effect more subtle? At a higher resolution, the engine *should* be able to use less pixels for the anti aliasing, overall decreasing the amount of noticability. I don't really know though, like I said, It's good in theory, not in practice. <img src="http://www.nancycarterdesign.com/bryce/pimpbot.gif" style="border:0;"/> ---------- <a href="http://www.nancycarterdesign.com/spongefactory/" target="top">Sponge Factory</a>

The Knight · #75 Post by **The Knight** » Wed Mar 19, 2003 6:17 am

Grave digging isn't one of my favorite hobbies, Wookie. But we could just "shovel" it all away. The Knight <img src="http://image1ex.villagephotos.com/1799499.jpg" style="border:0;"/>

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